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Old 10-15-2006, 06:56 AM   #16
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Is the wall being pushed out or just the rafters sliding?

Can you post a photo of the outside rafter area?

If the rafters are just sliding down then this should be corrected when the new roof is put on. I would have the roofers replace the rafters that appear to have any problems.

How far apart are the rafters spaced? (16 inches on center, 24 inches on center...)

Is the ridge beam level and straight?

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Old 10-15-2006, 11:08 AM   #17
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Hi don't know if this is of any help? but I had this same problem it was caused due to the age and deteriation off the bracing wires in the roof space this was rectified by replacing the wire braces with wooden struts fixed from one side of the roof to the other ie fixed to one rafter then to the rafter on the other side of the loft all in all there where 5 struts installed and it was relitively cheep to do and effective.

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Old 10-15-2006, 11:20 AM   #18
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Is the wall being pushed out or just the rafters sliding?

wall is pushed...mosly in the middle.. other side of the house has partial brickwall..so no problems on other side.

Can you post a photo of the outside rafter area?

no possible at the moment...but if you tell me what exactly you are looking for ..i may be able to tell you

If the rafters are just sliding down then this should be corrected when the new roof is put on. I would have the roofers replace the rafters that appear to have any problems.
.. engineer said that problem was created by small rafters...2x6s..he suggested to put a knee wall under the rafters

How far apart are the rafters spaced? (16 inches on center, 24 inches on center...)
not sure
Is the ridge beam level and straight?
not sure
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Old 10-15-2006, 11:32 AM   #19
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Hi don't know if this is of any help? but I had this same problem it was caused due to the age and deteriation off the bracing wires in the roof space this was rectified by replacing the wire braces with wooden struts fixed from one side of the roof to the other ie fixed to one rafter then to the rafter on the other side of the loft all in all there where 5 struts installed and it was relitively cheep to do and effective.

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will keep this in mind..thank you
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Old 10-15-2006, 12:02 PM   #20
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I asked prior if there were rafter ties (collar ties).

See the website below and it will show you what a collar tie (rafter tie) looks like. It helps to keep the roof rafters from spreading apart if a load is on the roof. If one lives in area with snow then it is recommended. Or if many layers of roofing are added.

You will also see in the diagram on the below website that the purlin (knee wall) also helps to support the roof under load.

Is the engineer saying to put the knee wall in the attic area?

Diagram appears at the bottom of the web page.

http://www.mcvicker.com/resguide/page010.htm

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Is the ridge beam level and straight?

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not sure
You will also see the location of the ridge beam on the diagram on the above website.
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Old 10-15-2006, 12:26 PM   #22
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As they say...eyes cant see what mind doesnt know!

As far as I recall there were no collar ties..i dont think i paid attention to ridge beam ..engineer didnt comment either.

yes..he is suggesting putting knee wall in attic...


is it possible to pull the wall back .....if so how much would all this cost?
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is it possible to pull the wall back .....if so how much would all this cost?
It should be possible to pull the wall back. It would be easier/less expensive to do when the old roof is being removed. Once the rafters were loosen in the area then the ceiling joist (attic floor joists) would need to be loosened and then the wall would be moved back into position. Then the rafters and joists would be re-nailed to hold the wall in the proper position. I would install metal brackets on the lower sections of the rafters where they intersect with the top plate (see diagram on website - shown as double plate) to give more strength to the rafters and wall area.

How long is the exterior wall of this room that has the slanted wall?

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How long is the exterior wall of this room that has the slanted wall?
24 feet...movemnet is mostly in the middle...
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Old 10-15-2006, 12:58 PM   #25
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It is hard to give an accurate price to repair the slanted wall without seeing the problem, not knowing the extent of the probelm, not knowing the area (pricing) that you are located in...

But I would estimate that it may cost between $500-$1,000 to move the wall back if done when the roof is being torn off. Could be less or could be more???

You could call your local contractors and have estimates written up.
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Old 10-15-2006, 01:12 PM   #26
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Did your purchase offer have conditions that the house must pass an inspection for the offer to be valid?

If you are go to get a loan thru a bank then the bank would have evaluate the property prior to approval.
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It is hard to give an accurate price to repair the slanted wall without seeing the problem, not knowing the extent of the probelm, not knowing the area (pricing) that you are located in...

But I would estimate that it may cost between $500-$1,000 to move the wall back if done when the roof is being torn off. Could be less or could be more???

You could call your local contractors and have estimates written up.
thanks so much for your help..I am in Rhode Island..

so should be talking with a roofer or a general contractor?

thanks again
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Old 10-15-2006, 01:17 PM   #28
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Who would be responsible for this repair? The seller or you (buyer)?
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Old 10-15-2006, 01:18 PM   #29
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thanks so much for your help..I am in Rhode Island..

so should be talking with a roofer or a general contractor?

thanks again
general contractor because this involves more than just roofing.
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thanks so much for your help..I am in Rhode Island..

so should be talking with a roofer or a general contractor?

thanks again
Christy,

A roofing contractor will take care or the "Roof Shingles" not the framing.

Your better off with a qualified contractor or a framing contractor.

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