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driftwoodtackle 09-03-2012 07:22 AM

rafter ties do they go inside or outside of walls?
 
Im tying my rafters down on the top plates using simpson h rafter ties. Do they go on the inside or outside? Thanks

AtlanticWBConst. 09-03-2012 07:40 AM

Interior side.

driftwoodtackle 09-03-2012 07:44 AM

Thank you. Is it normal to only be able to notch my 2x12 rafters only 1/6 th of the board to my top plate?

kwikfishron 09-03-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticWBConst. (Post 1002100)
Interior side.

That's where I've always put them but if you look at the Simpson site they show them all on the outside.

Hammer450R 09-03-2012 07:53 AM

If you put them on the outside you dont have to deal with them when you sheetrock. They can go on either as long as the inspector can see it.
In most cases the outside will be closed up by the time you go for a final frame. But you can get it on the sheathing inspection if they have them where you are.

driftwoodtackle 09-03-2012 07:59 AM

Thanks to all. My plans dont allow me to cut more than 1/6 of my rafter for a birds mouth to lay on my top plate. Is this normal for rafter strength?im using 2 x12 so i can only notch in 2 inches.

Hammer450R 09-03-2012 08:26 AM

2 inch should be fine depending on the pitch. You just dont want to cut more than full bearing on the wall.

GBrackins 09-03-2012 12:43 PM

are you installing wood sheathing on the exterior side of the wall?

see your other post for my reply on notching rafter http://www.diychatroom.com/f19/notch...please-155654/

Joe Carola 09-03-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by driftwoodtackle
Thanks to all. My plans dont allow me to cut more than 1/6 of my rafter for a birds mouth to lay on my top plate. Is this normal for rafter strength?im using 2 x12 so i can only notch in 2 inches.

No its not normal where I'm from. Full width of the top plate seatcut. You HAVE to follow your plans unless you talk to the architect and he changes them.

GBrackins 09-03-2012 02:39 PM

does you plan say you may not notch a joist or rafter more than 1/6? if so, a bird's mouth is not a notch, it is a seat cut

tornstrom 09-05-2012 12:08 PM

Outside, to prevent "topplate roll" http://www.strongtie.com/ftp/bulleti...ECONPATH10.pdf

driftwoodtackle 09-05-2012 12:10 PM

Thanks

Hammer450R 09-05-2012 12:14 PM

Good stuff Tornstrom

GBrackins 09-05-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBrackins (Post 1002308)
are you installing wood sheathing on the exterior side of the wall?

see your other post for my reply on notching rafter http://www.diychatroom.com/f19/notch...please-155654/

thus my reason for asking about wood sheathing on the exterior side. if you use rigid insulation it is not required .

you can install them on the interior side, you just have to add a stud plate connector (SSP) on the interior side, or a H2.5 will work also. this will connect the top plates to the stud to prevent the roll. I like the H2A or H10S as they are allowed for interior installation and will connect the rafter/truss, top plate and stud together in a single connector.

driftwoodtackle 09-05-2012 12:25 PM

Ill look into it. Thank you.


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