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Old 04-12-2011, 05:54 PM   #1
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I purchased 8 bags of quickrete countertop mix from someone who had leftovers. I opened several bags and noticed that they were lumpy. I removed lumps and mixed according to directions. I added water as it was dry after mixing 8 quarts of water per 2 bags. The mix started to set while in mixer leaving no working time. Could mix have been old? Any ideas?

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Old 04-12-2011, 08:52 PM   #2
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there are some guys around here that are pretty smart when it comes to concrete. I don't know much about it other than it hurts when you trip and hit your face on it.

Here is the spec sheet for the material you used. The only notation I see about how fast you need to work it is it says to not mix more than you can use in 30 minutes. and to mix for 3 minutes after your final addition of water. Sounds like yours was really quick for some reason.

It also said 8-9 pints water to 1 80 lb bag which is where you were with yours.

hang on for those that know more than what the sheet says. I'm tapped at this point.

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http://www.quikrete.com/PDFs/DATA_SH...6-80%20-81.pdf

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You got took!

That product has "gone-off" in the bag and is no good.
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:36 PM   #4
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So much for an honest Lowes employee
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purchased 8 bags of quickrete countertop mix from someone who had leftovers.
Now I am confused. These were leftovers that had been returned to the store??? Or what?

If so...go get your money back.
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No. I bought the leftovers from a store employee who he himself had over bought.
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No. I bought the leftovers from a store employee who he himself had over bought.
BUMMER!!!

Those type of products have a shelf life but even if they are not out of date they can still be spoiled. It depends on how they have spent their life and where.

The lumps are a bad sign. But a lot of that stuff can have already gone off and still be powdery in the bag. Most products have a code printed on the bag but like I said even if it is in-date that's no guarantee it is still good. You can usually call a techie with the code and find out when and where the product was bagged.

I think it flashed-over quickly because there was still enough life left to do so and you may have been short on water. Eight quarts of water for two bags doesn't sound like enough water to me. Generally speaking that type of product will take five to six quarts per fifty pounds of powder.
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Hmm I have like 3 bags of parging cement (no aggregate) in my garage that have been there for about 2 years, think they're bad? They went through our cold winters twice. It never even occurred to me that this stuff probably expires.
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Thanks for the info. I have 12 "new" bags on the way from Garris Evans building supply. Being shipped directly from Charlotte, NC
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bud, never knew that & here i've got 18b of 12,000# grout sitting in the shop for 2yrs better find a customer SOON ! ! !

we use polymer-modified cements for countertops altho most pro's who cast them have proprietary mixes,,, VERY few use the op's mfgr - that's apron/vest store quality junk & those who use it are generally entitled to be disappointed

decorativeconcreteforums has a running thread on conc countertops, etc,,, a little time invested prior to starting work might have saved wasted effort & $$$,,, most of us won't bother reinventing the wheel as it ain't worth our time
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I think it flashed-over quickly because there was still enough life left to do so and you may have been short on water. Eight quarts of water for two bags doesn't sound like enough water to me. Generally speaking that type of product will take five to six quarts per fifty pounds of powder.
per the manufacturers instructions, the water was adequate. Man. states 8-9 pints of water per 80# bag.

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The recommended slump is 5" - 7" (127-178 mm). Do
not exceed recommended slump range. Note: Final water content
should be 8-9 pints (3.8 4.3 L) per 80 lb (36.3 Kg) bag.
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I am not familiar with their mix, but if it contains lightweight aggregate, it is prone to flash set. The lightweight aggregate tends to repel water until a certain amount is present, and then suck it all out of the mix. Maximizer concrete does the same thing.

When I use anything with expanded shale (lightweight) aggregate, I mix 80% of the material with 100% of the water, then add the remaining 20% of material after it has mixed a bit. This prevents the flash set.
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The quickrete rep has been more than helpfull. They replaced all the defective product and more. Thanks quickrete.

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