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Old 09-02-2012, 09:58 AM   #31
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I should a added that closing it off with a wall is what I want to do. But was only gonna close off section from beam to right of beam leave railing on left side. I was thinking and I might be able to put a post in basement. It's unfinished just had a plan I will just have to rearrange layout that I wanted in basement as I hide these post in the walls.
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So when I build bearing points I run them from top of stair cut out straight to foundation. How many? One on each side of wall one side being the post hidden in wall.
the wall side will not have an issue because of the outside foundation. the stair well will have to be examined to establish full bearing support, (solid blocking) down to a footing. pulling drywall from the stair wall is the next step... you want to put a post in that wall just like over on the other outside wall.


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Old 09-02-2012, 02:06 PM   #32
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So the exterior wall post I don't have to go right to foundation just sit post on bottom plate wall. Also the window under has 2x6 header approved by city code. I imagine is still not good? Also I thought of going with a 8" I beam or if I can suck up the ceiling height loss go with a 10" I beam. Also thinking of opening entire ceiling to inspect more and have to insulate better too. Still considering professional just gonna call next week get a cost.

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Old 09-02-2012, 04:16 PM   #33
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Old 09-02-2012, 04:22 PM   #34
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THe picture of the light color 2x8 is where the stair post will be on top of. The picture of the window is the window that will be below the post in the wall. Also you can see inside the crawl space the beam they had put in there (hidden beam) above joist that didn't work very well cause of the way they installed it. You also can see that little supporting wall about a foot high. The stair cut out is the right of that about 3 or 4 feet which is also a wall on the second floor. Also a photo of the rooftop which you can see there is a bit of a sag on that side of the roof which you would expect from what you know now about it.

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The beam you see in crawl space when installed has no support on side where ends at stair cut out. Also the other end the beam was too short so they put two 2x10 on each side of beam to extend it to wall. Where these 2x10 are nailed to beam you can see how it started pushing in towards joist in that spot.

The beam where I was gonna put it was technically under the half wall. The floor you see in room is the portion of living space above living room that had sagged all the way past the half wall and even past that beam in crawl space.
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that is major confusing! the next step is to demo the drywall on the stair wall in line with where the post lands. the idea is to have the post bearing on solid in that wall all the way down to floor joist level, 2x blocking or something similar will be needed most likely, no way to know until the framing for that wall is exposed...
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Sorry for confusion it's probably cause i'm confused lol. For the record it's not actually a wall under railing. It's actually 2x4 nailed flat against stairs.

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Ok what of I put the beam aligned with basement beam? It's a new beam that was put in when I put in a new wood foundation. This beam would be dividing the basement that also has a 2x6 wall built under it. Only thing putting the beam there only 5 feet from supporting wall dividing living room to kitchen. Also right under the portion of living space that is sagging.
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You can't just stack it to another beam, has to go to foundation. That beam was not spec'd for the weight you want to put on it.
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Thanks for the response. Much appreciated. I am so stuck cause I have beam on each side and a window in between unless I put it gap between beam and window. Might be enough room for a post there.
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I am so stuck
The reason you’re stuck is because you have no plan and worse yet no clue of what you’re doing. You should STOP NOW and hire a designer or architect to develop a plan that will work. Nobody on the internet can do this for you.

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