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Old 08-06-2013, 11:42 PM   #31
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You may try something like this, but be warned. If you and your neighbor have serious issues anything you try to put up, they may try to either destroy or damage. Glad I love my neighbors.

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Old 08-07-2013, 12:21 AM   #32
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Can you tell me what that is and how it's put together?

The neighbours won't damage or complain about anything we do. They simply refuse to do anything from their side of the fence.
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I think I would put in some calls to the local building office....I'm willing to bet they are violating one or more limits...

Then....the next time they are out and about....get out the video camera and start recording....and then put it on you tube....or turn it over to the PoPo....
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:42 AM   #34
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Ah, I assumed you wanted this in the backyard.

You need to start by taking down what you have already have
built, and go back to the drawing board...I'm not saying this
to be mean, but now that I know it's for the front yard, it
would be a total eyesore. And, I seriously doubt that you would
not get complaints from the other neighbors.

Firstly, why do you need it on the side, just because of your
bedroom window? put up solar shades, it blocks the view
from the outside, while it still lets in the light...and
from the inside you can see out. Also, plant fast growing
shrubs or hedges along the fence.

If it was the backyard you wanted to block you would have more
freedom to do what you want; since it's the front yard you have
to give it more thought, as you want something attractive...

My suggestion would be to build an arbor, make it with a more solid
back and perhaps a seat in it. It would block the house next door,
and give you some privacy. It would be best if it was on a slight angle
and away from the fence a little so that you can plant behind it.

I did a quick search for Arbours and saw this.

https://www.google.com/search?q=gard...0d5SwOTDasM%3A

There are hundreds of Arbours on the Internet, I'm sure you could gather
some inspiration from the photos and build something that would do the
job you want it to do, while still looking attractive.

Another suggestion is to build a Pergola on that side of the house,
from the end of the house to the front door. You could do a slate patio,
and on the end fill it in (with a wall ) ...fill it in as dense as you want it.
I have stained glass in mine, but you could hang a garden flag in it just
as easily.

Hope this helps...
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:26 AM   #35
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LOL ...
that would help, putting the neighbors on youtube, while they're
sitting naked on their deck on their private property. I don't think so!
Not a good idea.

Maybe the dog...video tape the dog instead!

Seriously, neighbors barking dogs can ruin your life. Many people
are just so inconsiderate, and don't give a hoot about trying to be a good
neighbor. Many people don't realize how much their dogs bark, because it's
their dog and they don't pay attention to it. My nephew got a letter from
a neighbor about his dog barking during the day, he haven't realized how
annoying it was until it was brought to his attention.
He wrote a note to his neighbor and dropped it in his mailbox, essentially saying,
"thank you so much for bring to my attention that I was not being a considerate
neighbor. The problem will be resolved."
He kept his dog in more, and disciplined the dog as soon as he barked
incessantly. Problem solved amicably.

I agree with Ddawg, call the town, our town as ordinances against barking dogs.
They are only permitted to bark for a certain amount of minutes.

We have three neighbors with dogs, all of them are sweethearts. No barking!
Thank goodness.

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Firstly, why do you need it on the side, just because of your
bedroom window?
The side is slated to be my work area. I want potting benches and a shady place to work hypertufa. It's a useless space otherwise and will be put to good use if I can work back there without being attacked constantly.

Re: the dog and animal control. They've been out. The dog needs to bark for 20 minutes STRAIGHT in order to be considered a nuisance. Insanely, full attack all day long doesn't count if there's even a 1 minute break in between, even though we're frazzled for the entire day. Pun intended, the law has no teeth. We are grateful for small things, she doesn't bark all day, she only attacks when she sees us. Which is me working back there for an entire day or gardening in the front yard OR moving around in my bedroom or bathroom (which means having curtains drawn and those rooms are dark all the time). As long as we sit still or stay in the back yard or the other 1/2 of the house we're fine .. (I'm almost laughing) We feel like prisoners in our own home.

When you suggest pergola did you mean down the entire side of the house or just up front? If we build a pergola can we still put a "wall" on the neighbour's side?

We had considered an arching pergola and make a covered laneway but we want to re-side the house either next year or the one after and were trying to stay away from the wall until after that was done. 4ft doesn't give enough room for both.

Can you please look at the picture I've attached. I know this isn't the same "wall" we've built but besides looks what makes this safer than what we have up now? Post size? depth in ground? or just the big air gaps? Can the panel that we have up be made safer with larger/deeper posts? Or is it a complete wash? I'm aware the wall panel isn't pretty now but with plants grown over it will look better in time .. it still needs to be safe so I'm willing to take it down if it will never be safe no matter what.
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I'm sure the great minds on this site will help you work thru your dilemma. Can you post more pictures so we can get a better understanding of how your yard is laid out? I think that will help us troubleshoot a little better.

Also I've been told that the post above ground shouldn't exceed 2/3 of the total length with the other 1/3 being buried and preferably encased in concrete.

if you want it 8' tall you'd want at least 4' of your post buried and encased. Luckily you have a very shallow frost depth which wont cause much heaving.
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How many feet between the house and the fence on the side?

I think the pic of the free standing arbor is fantastic...(it looks to
be about 8 foot long x 8 foot across?

You could make a pergola along side the house and come off it past the house
in the front as much as you want (8 feet?) then turn it in front of the house
say 4 feet, and put a bench in it. The side walls could be filled in for privacy.

I know it hard to picture and if I was any good at drawing in perspective,
I would draw it for you, but I can only draw birds eye views and front
drawings.
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How many feet between the house and the fence on the side?

You could make a pergola along side the house and come off it past the house in the front as much as you want (8 feet?) then turn it in front of the house say 4 feet, and put a bench in it. The side walls could be filled in for privacy.
I understand what you're describing. I just went and measured, there's exactly 5'5" between the house wall and the brick pillars that make up our fence. I'll go take more pics now.

If we made a pergola similar to that one, could we still use the current panel in between the posts? Or is that still unsafe?

I'm still trying to understand if I can make the current panel safe to use or is the design of it just not going to work no matter what size posts or how deep. It's not a matter of cost at this point, it's trying to make something that neither dog nor people can see through without actually sticking up a piece of plywood.

I love the pergola in the picture I sent you BUT it's pointless for what we need to achieve when it comes to privacy.
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The most recent pictures.

View from our front yard,
the 5'5" space I want to turn into potting bench area (work on privacy screen halted until we find a better solution)
and a quick pic of the neighbour's deck and their fix for the problem .. an old table propped up to block the view, which the dog simply runs under.

Pics of the back yard .. trees we planted all down the back fence last year (please grow quicker, please grow quicker) which solved part of the problem because the dog can't see us through the fence anymore, and their tatty old umbrella that is stained and torn propped up to block the view to our back yard.
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Please explain each pic?

Is the deck with the umbrella and windmill their deck?

Is one deck your deck?
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, and their tatty old umbrella that is stained and torn propped up to block the view to our back yard.

Lets assume the other deck is hers.
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So your decks are across from one another? Is that a section
of fence along the back of your deck to block the view?

Are those shrubs fast growing Leland Cyprus ?
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So your decks are across from one another? Is that a section
of fence along the back of your deck to block the view?

Are those shrubs fast growing Leland Cyprus ?

I'm sorry, I was about to answer but realized it's irrelevant to the question at hand. I would like to focus on the privacy screen in the front yard if that's ok. Unless the answer to these questions helps solve the screen problem I'm having.

I only sent pictures of the back yard to show the proximity of the neighbour's home and deck.
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The photo of the arbor you posted is where you should concentrate
your efforts. You could tailor it to your needs. Come down the side,
and then come across the front a little, perhaps four feet.

Since this is visible from the front of the house, you have to consider
aesthetics...I would scrap your billboard privacy fence as it is not
going to improve your curb appeal. (you can still reuse that wood)
Focus on the pic you posted, you
said you like it -- and it does look good.
Sketch it up.

You can fill it in more with wood slats for more privacy...
The reason I asked about the Leyland Cyprus, as they grow fast
and big, and that would provide a lot of privacy in a couple of years.

As far as structural advise, I hope someone else can jump in to help you
on supporting the structure.

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