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Old 05-14-2011, 10:04 PM   #16
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You're a pro Insurgent, you should pick up your kit and come on over to ContractorTalk.com

I appreciate the vote-of-confidence, sir. But I do not see myself as being a "pro". And no offense to those who do. Or perhaps I have been thinking wrong all these years, but, I always thought of a "pro" as being one who... Argh, never mind, lol.

I did try to come over to the site, but it would not allow me. As I am not a contractor. Is there a way that I may still join? Feedback, again, very much appreciated. I do look forward to learning as much as my brain can handle, with the vast experience of the site members. And, hopefully, contributing as well.

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Old 05-14-2011, 10:13 PM   #17
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Just join, you're a professional. There are a lot of pro's there like me and Mudpad, who aren't contractors.

You're at this site, and you certainly aren't a DIY'er.

Just come on over, they'll be nice to you, and no one is gonna kick you off
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:19 PM   #18
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Just join, you're a professional. There are a lot of pro's there like me and Mudpad, who aren't contractors.

You're at this site, and you certainly aren't a DIY'er.

Just come on over, they'll be nice to you, and no one is gonna kick you off

Thank you very much, A.W. I will join later on, doin' a bit of reading atm(Friedrich Nietzsche, heh) . As I await the lady to come over from work. (:
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:31 AM   #19
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there's a couple points to consider & apologies if they've been mentioned previously,,, davis/bacon act is the controller of 'prevailing rate' - in theory the dept of labor surveys all contractors in a particular are to determine the prevailing labor/benefit pkg rates for various labor classifications,,, in truth, they call the labor unions,,, all contractors know this & so do the workers for the most part. ALL public works projects will require the prevailing labor rates to be posted on the worksite & readily avail for viewing/inspection by anyone.

IF the job is union, plan on applicable o/t rates after 8hrs ea day - if merit shop, o/t is applicable after 40hrs [ thank you Pres Reagan ],,, depending on site labor agreement, there may also be other specific items,,, certified payrolls are always rqd IF the project is davis/bacon &, under penalty of perjury, the declarer of the payrolls is responsible for compliance.

a quick comparison - union labor = $ 20 hr + benefit pkg worth $ 9 hr,,, 10hr day = 8 @ reg time + 2 @ o/t,,, benefit total of 10hrs pd to union,,, merit labor same guy - 10hrs @ $ 20 + $ 90 either as pay OR deposited to a qualified employee benefit fund,,, do NOT get tripped up on the payrolls - more contractors have lost big-time over that issue than anything else in my experience.
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Old 05-16-2011, 06:40 AM   #20
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generally speaking, if you're going to be a sub-contractor, you do have your own genl liability & workmen's comp,,, you also have your own equipment & can refuse work OR contract for it,,, as an employee, you have none of the above & are paid according to the job specifics - generally hourly rate + paid weekly.

my guys 1st started prevailing work at labor rates of $ 17.50 + $ 7 not knowing how to do the work 30yrs ago when hgwy joint sealing was a new item for nysdot,,, it sounds as if, based on what you post, your guy's looking to hire you as an employee,,, take the job
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:42 PM   #21
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In most cases, if you are paid by the hour you are an employee, not a subcontractor. You will probably and in your best interests not submit a fixed price bid even if the person giving you the work says that a bid is just a formality.

A contractor does not arbitrarily pay prevailing wages to subcontractorss Meanwhile subcontractors submit their bids knowing that they must pay prevailing wages to their employees although in your case you may be the one and only employee of your own firm.

Simply bringing your own tools does not make you a subcontractor.
Simply having a license or carrying insurance does not make you a subcontractor.
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Old 05-16-2011, 05:54 PM   #22
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if the offer was a job, you'll be paid by the hour,,, IF you join the painters union ( they usually claim sandblasting & pressure washing ), you'll be pd prevailing rate union wages & the union will get your benefits,,, if merit shop, you'll be pd the prevailing rate union wages & YOU get the ck for the benefit package.

any contractor will pay the least he must to attract competent workmen AND make a profit,,, union contractors do the same - no one pays more than required or negotiated,,, if so, we wanna come work for you

i always paid my subs according to their contractual agreement - prevailing rate had nothing to do with it,,, they paid their own labor weekly & submitted invoices for work completed according to specs & accepted,,, we, in turn, billed the owner - the subs got paid 5d after we were pd by owner,,, labor got paid every payday,,, you would not be a sub-contractor IF there were no contractor/sub-contractor agreement,,, caution - find out IF you'd be an employee, sub-contractor, OR 3rd tier sub-contractor
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,,, caution - find out IF you'd be an employee, sub-contractor, OR 3rd tier sub-contractor
I find it extremely unlikely that the OP could be anything other than a regular employee.

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