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Old 08-01-2011, 04:49 PM   #16
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Well it was just a shade structure... lets say...
4x4 post. 11 high' two of them about 8 feet apart, 2 by 8's connecting the 2 4x4 up top. then 2x4 every 16 inches up top on like a 35 degree angle or so... nothing major.. then maybe some hawaii type of feathery roof top cover. those hairy things that they have at retreats... i forgot the name, i just saw it used last night on a show too.
What length are the 2x4's. This size lumber has a small span before it bends. If there's weight on top or a snow load, even less.
The feathery things need considerable support. If you live in Phoenix, no problem. If you have rain or snow this will not survive too long.
Try detailing the size of this structure. I'm getting a sense it's under structured from your posts.

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Old 08-01-2011, 09:41 PM   #17
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Ok. So let me see if I can explain this better. Sorry if I don't know the terms exactly. I'll try my best. This is a rough off the top of my head idea, not jotted down.

Idea is built a shade structure that probably won't shade much but would look nice.

2 post 4x4 about ground level up let's say 10-11 ft. The post are about 8 feet apart.

Base of the post. Cinderblocks forming a square around the base of the post. About 3.5 feet high. Veneer stone on cinderblocks and cap up top, cut to fit with post.

Top of post. Let's say 2x8 boards. 2 of them. Connecting both post up at the 10-11 ft high mark. 2x4's let's say every 16 inches on about 35 degree angle on both sides. 2x4's will be about no more than 4 ft. Roof top material will be that tiki type Hawaii hairy hay lol. I'll find the name!! I know if it's 10 am or 4 pm it won't give me shade. Just a added touch to the yard. Was thinking painting wood white.
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Old 08-01-2011, 09:54 PM   #18
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Thatch!!!!
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:01 PM   #19
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I can even just instead of making the 2x4's every 16 and on a angle I can also just go flat and use 2x2's spaced out every 6 inches. Like a 2 legged pergola. Options are endless.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:34 PM   #20
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This is what I'm talking about. But with veneer columns. Maybe it's better to go with no thatch and just go open and paint white.
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:36 PM   #21
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Thatch gets nasty looking. Why only two posts? Why not do four?
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Thatch gets nasty looking. Why only two posts? Why not do four?
why do four? double the work, double the expense, double everything.
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Thy is true, I just am trying to picture something 11 feet in the air on 4x4s and it seems spindley and wobbly.
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Thy is true, I just am trying to picture something 11 feet in the air on 4x4s and it seems spindley and wobbly.
wobbly really? maybe i should make it not as tall then. But yeah i would do 2 post like the first pic above... or even have the 2 post up. cus lets say 3 ft of 4x4 two times and plot them above the post to make a T. then connect and make my top. lots of options
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I'd like to hear what other members say but I would use 4x6 posts more for aestethic reasons than structural. 4x4 just look very skinny when you get to that height.
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I'd like to hear what other members say but I would use 4x6 posts more for aestethic reasons than structural. 4x4 just look very skinny when you get to that height.
I agree. But the picture showes 6x6's that will keep it from shaking. The 4x6 or 6x6's i would set in concrete, which is what was said above (Tar and wrap the bottom of the posts) buy the time these rot out you will be long gone
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Awesome. Ok. Didn't realize it was 6x6. Looks nice.
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Was at Lowes checking out the 6x6 post plus others for my DIY project. How does pt lumber look sanded and stained? Or better to paint it? I would like it to look nice. This will be an awesome DIY project.
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tar the bottom of the post use quick set concrete mix in a good size deep hole 3' throw some gravel into the mix long level and within 30-40 minutes it is set..crown off the top at ground level so the water down it will run away

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