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Old 06-09-2012, 10:18 AM   #16
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The only thing I could see doing would be to put new 6 new 6x6 columns under it with new joists. Support the corners (both outside AND at the house) and then in the middle. Essentially putting a frame under what's already there. The outside posts could be replaced to allow re-using their position. This might entail pouring new footings, to say nothing of getting the old ones out. The deck would have to be supported temporarily, of course. But with this frame you'd lose the headroom underneath of it.

You don't want to hear it but you're going to be far better off taking that deck down and putting up a new one that's done properly. Don't know that it'd be practical to keep the roof while replacing the deck, probably not.

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Old 06-09-2012, 01:30 PM   #17
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piper,

how much room is there above the ground level slider and the bottom of the existing deck floor joists?
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This is the part that bothers me the most. All of the weight of that deck is resting on the two framing members at each end of the deck. All of that weight is then transfered to the connection points at either end of it. If this is truly the case then adding joist hangers won't do anything.
Im surprised no one else has mentioned this. Im no structural engineer, but If the joists are parrallel to the house then half the weight of that deck is only supported by 2 points along the entire length of the deck along the house. There no pics or details of how those two points are attached to the house
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Im surprised no one else has mentioned this. Im no structural engineer, but If the joists are parrallel to the house then half the weight of that deck is only supported by 2 points along the entire length of the deck along the house. There no pics or details of how those two points are attached to the house
you are correct! that connection (end framing member connecting to dwelling) has about 2,000 lbs of load.

If it was my deck I would not use it until corrected.

there are viable solutions, but only after more photos and answers to questions are provided.
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In all fairness, I would remove it and start over!
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In all fairness, I would remove it and start over!
May be quicker and cheaper to do so
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In all fairness, I would remove it and start over!
I would concur. It will be cheaper and safer to start from scratch.

If the AWC wanted to build a project to show all the ways not to build a deck I don't think they could have done a better job.
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I apologize for my long absence. The deck didn't fall and kill me (or anyone else)!! Just fixed up the deck, had the baby's first birthday, went on a little vacation, then been working like a madman. I did consider tearing down the whole thing, but I decided against it. I have built a frame out of 4x4 posts and 4x6 cross beam placing them 3 ft in from each end. I have also doubled up the outside band, reduced the joist spacing to 12" on center, and tied everything together with hangers, ties, and new fasteners. Future plans include replacing the old 4x4 posts with new posts, getting everything painted up, adding another post support for the stairs, then replacing the 4x4 post holding the roof up. I will post pics in the next day or so. Thanks again everyone!

Also, an answer to a question or two that was asked. There is about 6 inches above the slider and the bottom of the deck. I don't know how the ledger is attached to the house, as the inside of the basement is completely finished in. That's another reason I decide to bring frames in under the deck to relieve the weight on that ledger.
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About 6" above the door, to the bottom of joist.

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