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Old 04-22-2009, 01:54 PM   #1
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i got a free piece of 1/2" thick tempered glass and want to build this outside my back porch. being as i want it with 6x6 foundation notched/bolted posts with 2x8 same, sunk down 2 ft. on concrete platforms. do it need a permit? if some freak softball-sized hail ever breaks it, i'll just plank it with 2x8 F/G... same question though, since it's permanent?
(i do intend to saw a fancier curvy bottom to the supports)

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I would think not since its furniture??
Are you going to put cross pieces in for support?

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it's 79+1/2" X 45" (nice beveled edges too) so i'm thinking 3 6x6's to support it ends and middle. they will be surrounded by the concrete floor too. i just didn't want to try to draw both in the sketch and chose to show the post hole in the cement instead, then decided 3 posts would probably be best?

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The tempered glass will need complete perimeter support. It will need to be recessed into a substance that will protect the edges. You can't let it dangle with ,"T" supports. Tempered glass is very sensitive to getting hit on the edge. It will shatter in a heartbeat.
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Have you considered using the actual benches, themselves, for "fold-up" protective coverings?

I left all the obviously necessary extra braces and stops out of these drawings for simplicity. But I think you can see how the idea works.

Of course, the table would be permanently mounted between the benches, and wouldn't slide out as I have shown it for clarity.

An especially attractive feature of sturdy, well fitting benches built like this is that a large sheet of plywood can be thrown on top of the flat and level bench backs in their folded positions, and you have a ready-made worktable for any use you choose. And the glass table remains below, safe and protected.
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The tempered glass will need complete perimeter support. It will need to be recessed into a substance that will protect the edges. You can't let it dangle with ,"T" supports. Tempered glass is very sensitive to getting hit on the edge. It will shatter in a heartbeat.
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summagun... it has a little chip and no 'tempered' stamp, so it's pane...
the guy said it was tempered, i hadn't had time to look that closely.

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i love that idea willie....
tnkx!

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i love that idea willie....
tnkx!

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If you think you'd like to do it, I'll draw you up some detailed plans.
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PLANS??? we don' need no steenking plans!!! lol
thanks, but why waste your time? i could build this in my sleep, dude!
i'll be adding a lock to hold it down in strong winds, and i think i'll just build the 2 part tabletop on the backs of the seats!
great idea though, thanks again!

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PLANS??? we don' need no steenking plans!!! lol
thanks, but why waste your time? i could build this in my sleep, dude!
i'll be adding a lock to hold it down in strong winds, and i think i'll just build the 2 part tabletop on the backs of the seats!
great idea though, thanks again!

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Sorry. I sometimes forget that there are a whole heap of us who just say, "I can do that!", grab a couple of pieces of wood, and start cutting.
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truly grateful for the idea willie!

since there's a tiny chip on the glass, i'll dado a frame for it from matching wood and PL it to the sucker.

and i think i'll use 4x4s to sink in the ground and add swing down 2x4 rear legs with 3/4" carraige bolts and large washers and wingnuts!

this should keep it neat and compact. Po)

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now i'm confused as hell..... there's a chip in the corner, AND it's stamped tempered!!???
i've NICKED a pane of tempered and had it turn to crumbs... what's up with this one?

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BTW nice plans Willie! Sounds like a cool project DM. Ever consider painting the bench and stand in primary colors (like the diagram). Maybe just pick one color, but I think a bright paint job would really highlight the glass table.
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i'll be using all green treated foundation grade for the wood parts, so i don't think i'll paint it at all.
but it should still look nice! i'll be cementing around all the posts when done and then i want to use an epoxy finish on the cement.
something like--> http://www.daichcoatings.com/Design%...ject49_jpg.htm
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http://www.daichcoatings.com/Design%...ject12_jpg.htm
maybe?

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i'll be using all green treated foundation grade for the wood parts, so i don't think i'll paint it at all.
but it should still look nice! i'll be cementing around all the posts when done and then i want to use an epoxy finish on the cement.
something like--> http://www.daichcoatings.com/Design%...ject49_jpg.htm
or
http://www.daichcoatings.com/Design%...ject12_jpg.htm
maybe?

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Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!!! I know the sun treats your wood more gently up there than it does down here, but you can almost be guaranteed of serious warping and checking (splitting) of exposed #2 pressure treated wood. Careful the inevitable twisting doesn't end up cracking your glass top.

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