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Old 08-30-2008, 11:23 PM   #16
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i still have no viable solution to this, anyone else have any ideas? maybe a new thread? hasn't ANYone ever had a 2x12 inside and out to hold the rafters and found a good way to hide them? i simply refuse to believe the GOV. let them do this if no-one has ever done it before.
and how do i fix this screw up they did? the sagging beam??

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To be honest with you the only time i have seen post and beam was for barns and storage shed's. besides a few house's around here from the 1700's
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Old 08-31-2008, 12:36 AM   #17
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How about a few more pics please. I can't seem to get the whole thing envisioned in my head. There is always a fix. It might be a one off way of doing it.
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ok, more pics on the way. maybe even today if i get time to rake them and post. =o)

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ask and ye shall recieve....( I WISH!)

pics done, resized and optimized.....here we go.... 6 more to follow in a sec.

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and the rest....

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Old 08-31-2008, 04:39 PM   #21
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The place seems to be coming along pretty well.

OK, something I'm not 100% clear on...
Did the beams sag, or did the entire structure sag due to footing movement? Basically, did the posts move?

I still say that the connection between the posts and the 2x12's is weak.

Short of continuous soffits or furring the exterior walls out 1-1/2", there is no way to hide the 2x12's projection from the face of the wall. Have you considered furring? You'd have to re-rock though. Forethought, my friend...Forethought!
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yes, i thought of that, but 10" plus thick walls? remember, those 2x12s are inside AND outside.

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because of the roofline being clean, i think the post sunk in the year it sat waiting. (or pad cracked from not enough 'crete) then the second guy shimmed perhaps to flush it. i was out of town when he did that section, and now it's unviewable. the 2x12 did not shift on the post so far as i can see.

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also, because of how little weight that 6' 2X12 is supporting, and the fact there's another better one outside, i see no harm to it's integrity if i slice off that 1" to 0" part to level the sheetrock top. then furring the ceiling from that end 0 to 1" at the other end. that would also help hide the steel supports. but i need to know if the inspector will poopoo it and make me pull it and replace?

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oh yeah, and pls note the walnut door trim i created from trees in my woods, and the jarrah light switch cover i did from scraps from the porch. =o)
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but i need to know if the inspector will poopoo it and make me pull it and replace?
As unreasonable as it may seem, I'd make you replace it or get an engineer to sign it off as soon as you rip the edge of that 2x12. Ripping graded lumber absolutely negates the grade stamp and makes it unusable in a structural span application. You should talk it over with the inspector prior to doing it.
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also note the pic of the round corner turntable cupboards... (5 bucks each at habitat for humanity, where i seem to be buying more and more supplies as prices keep going up and up) i really only have need for one, but what the hey, i'll find somewhere else to use the other, the wife loves those things. =o)

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i'll buy that kc, how about if i pulled the inside one off completely and just notched it on top to fit around the bottoms of the rafter bottoms? any problems with that? (other than the removal of the steel support bracket nails i just remembered... but they can be reattached) and my building inspector is in alaska right now, i guess when they expanded his territory, they REALLY expanded it!

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You're getting off topic with doors and cabinets and lightswitches Dangermouse!

You should create a new thread in the project showcase section to show off and chronicle your project! That way you can post pics of your progress for everyone to see without it getting lost.
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Do you know what code they're enforcing up there?

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