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Old 02-16-2011, 12:31 PM   #1
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Hello everyone, had a question about what to use for making moldings and panels for outside my house? I want to wrap my pillers on the front deck with something smooth that I can paint kind of like a Craftsmen style house. I also want to make some panels to replace some siding and some window moldings as well. I know you can't use mdf as it soaks up moisture... so what do you use????

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Any good paint grade wood is fine. Just prime and paint it to seal it from the elements. Lowes and such has an aisle of the higher quality paint grade wood in a pretty big variety.

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What kind of wood is cheap enough though and does not warp with the cold and heat? thanks again
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Well cedar, but its more expensive. I've used south. yellow pine and never had any issues with it. Just prime and paint all sides of it. But..honestly, I don't know how well cedar paints. Seems like that might be an issue. I just mentioned cedar based on your second question of warping not thinking about the painting aspect.

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thanks both good options.. I never thought of the cedar though.. unfortunately goes up triple in price from Pine.. Do you know what they are using on the new house construction exteriors? it looks like MDF... they make posts and wall panels... its smooth and comes in sheets.. must be weather proof I would think too??
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For wood, outdoors, I use Cedar.

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thanks both good options.. I never thought of the cedar though.. unfortunately goes up triple in price from Pine.. Do you know what they are using on the new house construction exteriors? it looks like MDF... they make posts and wall panels... its smooth and comes in sheets.. must be weather proof I would think too??
MDO plywood. Good for exterior applications if used properly. In the applications you mentioned above. Don't think I would trim around windows or anything with it. I used it on the posts here:



MDO is excellent for painting.

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A lot of exterior trim these days is Azek or PVC
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Hello everyone, had a question about what to use for making moldings and panels for outside my house? I want to wrap my pillers on the front deck with something smooth that I can paint kind of like a Craftsmen style house. I also want to make some panels to replace some siding and some window moldings as well. I know you can't use mdf as it soaks up moisture... so what do you use????

I used an exterior grade Plywood to build my
columns.(CDX)
Weather-proofed with semi solid stain.
They've held up for 10 years so far without any
peeling.

The moldings are just pine with three coats of finish.
These are pretty well protected from the weather
by the wide overhang,and the bottoms are isolated
from the cement caps with a "vinyl flashing" detail.
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Awesome guys those are great ideas.. I like the posts.. they look good are these products costly??

about the windows?? what would work there? I was going to go over the existing tin.. just wanted the look of molding..
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Awesome guys those are great ideas.. I like the posts.. they look good are these products costly??

about the windows?? what would work there? I was going to go over the existing tin.. just wanted the look of molding..
PVC (like Azek) is probably the best choices for exterior trim if you want a product that cuts and works like wood but will not rot.

If you want wood, then Cedar is what I use.

You say cedar is 3x the cost of pine but will last probably 3x longer. And as for Azek many times longer.

You get what you pay for. Maybe you should consider value more than initial cost. What kind of durability are you getting for the money you invest?

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For wood, outdoors, I use Cedar.


MDO plywood. Good for exterior applications if used properly. In the applications you mentioned above. Don't think I would trim around windows or anything with it. I used it on the posts here:



MDO is excellent for painting.
Agreed. MDO is my first choice, as long as you seal the edges well, with azek for the mouldings

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