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Old 08-01-2008, 07:02 PM   #16
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funsucker??? no way my friend... think of all the work YOU'RE saving (me!!) lol i truly love this site. it's saving me a lot of grief, (even as it sucks my time...) but better to do it right than do it over! tnkx!

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Old 08-01-2008, 07:10 PM   #17
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this site needs a real time chatroom like irc with pm's and rooms for each section. elec. plumbing, etc. sure speed things up!

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Old 08-01-2008, 07:47 PM   #18
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At the top of the handrail, I'd miter it and continue it on horizontally at the top of the guardrail. That will look good and meet code too!
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Old 08-01-2008, 07:58 PM   #19
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i did that already, and it does look nice! i just haven't mounted it yet, not until i'm sure the rest is right.
tomorrow i make the newel posts...... i think i'll sink some treated 4x4 in cement, then build jarrah around that for strength. that'll look nice and be more than strong enough after i cement around the rest of it. one more question, does the top of the handrail need to attach to the house?
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Good idea to wrap the newel. That'll look nice.

As for attaching to the house, I think you're talking about the GUARDRAIL, right? The handrail is angled at the stairs.

Nope. No requirement to attach to the house, provided it will resist the 200lb lateral load of someone pushing against it.
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:13 PM   #21
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how can i gauge 200 lbs pressure? i put in 5 more balusters today on each side of the landing, all bolted with 3" carriage bolts at the bottom then drilled and screwed on top. spaced at min. 3 and 7/8". darn strong and it looks sweet too... but is it enough?....hmmmmm.... =o)
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:15 PM   #22
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a 4" sphere
That is, the head of a child no older than one year. . .
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how can i gauge 200 lbs pressure?
No practical way to gauge it, and I've never seen or heard anyone actually try to. I just lean my 290 pound body against them, and if they scare me, they fail. A good rule of thumb is if you can wiggle them back and forth they probably need to be beefed up.
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how can i gauge 200 lbs pressure?
With two ropes and a pulley and a 200# weight you could test this.
One rope restrains the pulley shaft and so it needs to be fastened to something like a nearby tree.
The rope extending from the railing to the pulley needs to be horizontal, and I'd build up to the 200# gradually.
Where do you find such a weight that you can gradually make heavier? That's what the little kids in the neighborhood are for (just kidding, just kidding. . .)
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With two ropes and a pulley and a 200# weight you could test this.
One rope restrains the pulley shaft and so it needs to be fastened to something like a nearby tree.
The rope extending from the railing to the pulley needs to be horizontal, and I'd build up to the 200# gradually.
Where do you find such a weight that you can gradually make heavier? That's what the little kids in the neighborhood are for (just kidding, just kidding. . .)
I said there's no practical way.
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I said there's no practical way.
Yeah, ya' got me there!
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well, today i added 1" steel 'L' brackets to the guardrail at the house wall, it won't move at ALL now! so i think i'm good to go on that end...on to the new newels! *wish me luck* lol tnkx all!

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Old 08-02-2008, 03:29 PM   #28
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although it's going to be "fun" trying to side around where it attaches to the home..... hehehehe

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here's some more pics to show my dilemmas. with these maybe you guys have a better idea what i'm dealing with. never done any if this before so your help is truly appreciated. =o)

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I now see what you mean about the 2x12 sticking out from the post/studs. The only ways to hide that is to either fur out the wall flush with the 2x12 or to use it as an "architectural feature" and build a soffit out from it. It would be a nifty place to put can lights! Sometimes methods used to hide mistakes become features that make houses look cool. For future reference, it would have been a good idea to notch that 2x12 into each post so you'd have flush faces and really solid bearing. It'll work either way provided you did a good job of fastening it (bolts).

The deck is looking great. Probably should have waited to have the siding up. That handrail/guardrail mitered transition looks perfect.

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