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out123 05-16-2012 12:34 PM

Outdoor kitchen roof question
 
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Thank you in advance. I am not an expert and need some advice. My contractor did not account for the water and sun that would eventually come in based on height. I was interested on adding an awning but was told the weight of the water would not be appropriate. I would like to have the water not fall on the counter and chairs. What do you suggest if we were to build a three or four foot angled roof at the bottom on the beams coming out. Thank you !!!

lewisthepilgrim 05-16-2012 10:06 PM

Thats a nice big piece of wood. You could do pretty much anything you want with that.

what about an awning?

out123 05-16-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lewisthepilgrim (Post 923043)
Thats a nice big piece of wood. You could do pretty much anything you want with that.

what about an awning?

thanks lewisthepilgrim, an awning will not work because rain will place a large amount of weight.

kwikfishron 05-17-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by out123 (Post 922609)
My contractor did not account for the water and sun that would eventually come in based on height.

Did you discuss with your contractor that you wanted a dry space to use or did he just build what you asked for?

Closing off the upper third of the openings and a gutter would help some but you'll never keep wind blown rain out.

I sure hope he double sheathed the roof deck.

lewisthepilgrim 05-17-2012 08:54 AM

What about a nice window along the top there ? Not too low... maybee a foot or 2 ?

out123 05-17-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kwikfishron (Post 923235)
Did you discuss with your contractor that you wanted a dry space to use or did he just build what you asked for?
Yes I asked for that. I made a bad call.

Closing off the upper third of the openings and a gutter would help some but you'll never keep wind blown rain out.

I will ask, that is a good idea. He suggested for me to create a 3 foot angle roof coming out on a steep angle. What do you think?

I sure hope he double sheathed the roof deck.

Could you tell me what this means? I did see the process. There is a black material that came in a roll and shingles on top of it. Despite that I have an area that has water coming in. What do you think it could be?

Thanks so much!

kwikfishron 05-18-2012 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by out123 (Post 923689)
Could you tell me what this means? I did see the process. There is a black material that came in a roll and shingles on top of it. Despite that I have an area that has water coming in. What do you think it could be?

Thanks so much!

The grooved wood you see when looking up at the rafters is T1-11 plywood siding and should not be used for roof sheathing. It may be ok in your case if he added another layer of plywood over the top of it before the roofing. If the T1-11 is the only sheathing on the rafters then thatís a big mistake.

As far as the leak, weíd need pictures of where itís coming in at and also of the topside of the roof itself.

kwikfishron 05-18-2012 07:26 AM

If that stained plywood in the first picture is the leak your talking about then that’s likely just water wicking back in from a poor roof design.

I’m going to assume no permits were pulled due to the lack of hardware at the post to beam connections.

weberus3 05-18-2012 05:36 PM

How about a rain diverter strip on top of the shingles angled away from the siting area and counter?

out123 05-19-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kwikfishron (Post 923877)
If that stained plywood in the first picture is the leak your talking about then thatís likely just water wicking back in from a poor roof design.

Iím going to assume no permits were pulled due to the lack of hardware at the post to beam connections.

He does not have a permit, I just asked. What do you suggest as far as post to beam connection?

kwikfishron 05-19-2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by out123 (Post 924652)
He does not have a permit, I just asked. What do you suggest as far as post to beam connection?


Even if your contractor failed to pull a permit (assuming you need one) ultimately the responsibility and liability is on you.

Iíd suggest itís time to take two steps back and contact your building department and find out whatís required in your area.

Whichever code your town/city follows will dictate what you need for a post to beam connection along with other details your guy may have missed.

Joe Carola 05-19-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by out123

He does not have a permit, I just asked.

How come.he didn't get a permit?

out123 05-19-2012 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kwikfishron (Post 924663)
Even if your contractor failed to pull a permit (assuming you need one) ultimately the responsibility and liability is on you.

Iíd suggest itís time to take two steps back and contact your building department and find out whatís required in your area.

Whichever code your town/city follows will dictate what you need for a post to beam connection along with other details your guy may have missed.

Thanks for the heads up.... I will do that.

out123 05-19-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Carola (Post 924670)
How come.he didn't get a permit?

He told me that he does not need one. There is a permit for the pool project. This outdoor kitchen is sitting on a slab foundation poured by the pool company. The city did not require a permit for him. The HOA required specs but not permit either. This is my first project. I learned my lesson!!!


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