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Old 12-01-2011, 02:58 PM   #1
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Im planning on making a brick fireplace for the backyard. I found a wood burning fireplace insert that was from a house and plan to use that as the fire box. I plan to enclose the insert with brick on the sides and back but where I am stumped is how should I make the transition from the top of the insert to the chimney? I know I cant rely on the insert to hold the weight of the bricks as I stack them for the chimney.

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Very poor plan, the steel with just rust out in a few years and you would need the brick to be laid over a steel plate to keep it from crushing the insert.

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are you saying the steel plate would rust? or the fireplace insert?
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i dont know, its been outside for a few years from the guy i got it from and in my backyard all summer, im not seeing any rust. The one in the pic is not mine btw.
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The best way to do it IMO, and from previous experience with Vestals, Dutch, etc... fireplaces is to simply pour a re-inforced concrete "shelf" near the top of the unit where you'll transition to flue liner. The only weight the concrete should really need to support will be the flues & a small amount of block/brick around the flues, as most of the weight should be transfered to the exterior shell via corbelling.
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The best way to do it IMO, and from previous experience with Vestals, Dutch, etc... fireplaces is to simply pour a re-inforced concrete "shelf" near the top of the unit where you'll transition to flue liner. The only weight the concrete should really need to support will be the flues & a small amount of block/brick around the flues, as most of the weight should be transfered to the exterior shell via corbelling.
I like that idea. Do you happen to have any pics of the shelf form going together or pics after its poured? Thanks for the help!

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