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05-30-2012, 09:34 PM   #1
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Out of square deck

My measurements on my deck are all the same except my diagonal any ideas

05-30-2012, 09:43 PM   #2
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You're kidding, right? "Rack" it some till you no longer have a parallelgram, and the two diagonals read the same. (Shove the corner of the longest measurement toward the shortest.)

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 05-30-2012, 09:47 PM #4 Newbie   Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3 Rewards Points: 10 I have post set joist will be resting on a beam .Could I rack it on the beam ?
 05-30-2012, 09:49 PM #5 Newbie   Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3 Rewards Points: 10 Four inches
 05-31-2012, 07:43 AM #6 Custom User Title   Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 353 Rewards Points: 252 Split the difference. Using Pythagorean theorem, you should be able to find out what the correct measurement should be.
 05-31-2012, 08:53 AM #7 AHH, SPANS!!!   Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Durham NC Posts: 1,751 Rewards Points: 1,166 I've always found to make one side as a designated straight side( usually the house side) and then try and square everything off that side. temporary bracing helps as a save the day approach to fully racking a deck to square
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05-31-2012, 11:22 AM   #9
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 Originally Posted by hand drive I've always found to make one side as a designated straight side( usually the house side) and then try and square everything off that side. temporary bracing helps as a save the day approach to fully racking a deck to square

I can attest to the challenges of trying to square the whole deck. I needed to move the beam/post end of my 10' by 19' deck a 1/4 inch to square it up. Took me half an hour doing it by myself.
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05-31-2012, 01:06 PM   #10
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 Originally Posted by drtbk4ever I can attest to the challenges of trying to square the whole deck. I needed to move the beam/post end of my 10' by 19' deck a 1/4 inch to square it up. Took me half an hour doing it by myself.

when working on deck/framing I am always 2 steps away from a 2x4 to use as a pry board to move something heavy around if needed. I worked with a guy who always nailed 2xs onto something and then pivoted off of the nails to raise/move stuff. there were constantly nails to be pulled/cut sticking out of stuff where he yanked the pivot board off and the nails stayed

05-31-2012, 03:22 PM   #11
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why?

unless you built it out of welded steel/iron, it will move/expand/contract unevenly (especially within the first year).

welders get things square, carpenters get things close.

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 Originally Posted by drtbk4ever I can attest to the challenges of trying to square the whole deck. I needed to move the beam/post end of my 10' by 19' deck a 1/4 inch to square it up. Took me half an hour doing it by myself.

05-31-2012, 08:58 PM   #12
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 Originally Posted by jcrack_corn why? unless you built it out of welded steel/iron, it will move/expand/contract unevenly (especially within the first year). welders get things square, carpenters get things close.

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06-01-2012, 09:41 AM   #13
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 Originally Posted by jcrack_corn why? unless you built it out of welded steel/iron, it will move/expand/contract unevenly (especially within the first year). welders get things square, carpenters get things close.

Where did you get that from? I can assure you everything I have ever bilt is as square as the day I framed it.

 06-01-2012, 09:50 AM #14 Newbie Bill   Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,081 Rewards Points: 522 I remember my brothers and brother-laws built a cabin in the mid 80's. We spent a lot of time getting the sill plate square. The running joke is that cabin is the squarest structure in the county. __________________ Bill A DIY Noob that knows just enough to be dangerous.
06-01-2012, 11:25 AM   #15
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 Originally Posted by Jay bird I have post set joist will be resting on a beam .Could I rack it on the beam ?
NO! You never build anything on something that is not flat, level, and/or square (if it is supposed to be) and hope to make it right later by shifting something built upon the defective base.

Do each step correctly BEFORE moving on to the next one.

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