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Old 12-05-2009, 09:37 PM   #31
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7 th weekend so far - or 14 days. Just finished framing the walls, ducts, pipes and electrical panel.

The book I have which was recommended "Remodeling a basement" by Roger German does not do a very good job explaining how to do the wiring.

For example, I understand the basics so far, however I don't understand the following.

For example if I have 10 devices on one run (for the sake of this example, let's assume they are lights), I understand how to add in a switch in series to control the lights. However I want to have 2 switches - 1 to control 5 and the other switch to control the other 5 lights, how do I wire the switch in this case on this one run? The book does not explain this and I need to find a wiring book.

Any recommendations for a good wiring book?

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Old 12-05-2009, 09:51 PM   #32
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Run a 3 wire romax use red for one set and black for the others. When you have the red connected to the lights keeps the blacks connected in the box. The other way is two use to sets of romax but tie them into the same circuit at the beging of the run. Make sure that you our not overloading the circuit, I assumed you have calculated this and verified that your circuit can handle the 10 lights?
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Run a 3 wire romax use red for one set and black for the others. When you have the red connected to the lights keeps the blacks connected in the box. The other way is two use to sets of romax but tie them into the same circuit at the beging of the run. Make sure that you our not overloading the circuit, I assumed you have calculated this and verified that your circuit can handle the 10 lights?
Hi rocketdoctor, thanks for the response, but I have no idea what you mean by romax.

Is there a diagram that explains what you just said? I have searched tons on google but can't find anything applicable - I can find so much other stuff, but not what I'm looking for above.

I just used the 10 lights as an example.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:07 PM   #34
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Romax = Romex - wire

Here is a link to basic wiring diagrams

http://www.electrical-online.com/wiringdiagrams.htm


I run my power to the 1st light in each setup
From 1st light I run a switch loop to the switch
Then from the 1st light I run neutral & switched hot to the other lights
Going from one to the next

There are different ways of wiring, all depends upon where power is located
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Romax = Romex - wire

Here is a link to basic wiring diagrams

http://www.electrical-online.com/wiringdiagrams.htm


I run my power to the 1st light in each setup
From 1st light I run a switch loop to the switch
Then from the 1st light I run neutral & switched hot to the other lights
Going from one to the next

There are different ways of wiring, all depends upon where power is located
Thanks Dave for trying to help this idiot.

I looked at the basic wiring diagrams and they still don't answer my question and your explanation makes no sense to me. It has nothing to do with your explanation but simply my lack of basic knowledge.

Let me try to rephrase my question.

1. On a single power run, I have 6 lights.

2. I want to have two switches controlling 3 unique lights each. So I'm not talking about two or three-way switches or anything remotely complex like that.

3. First switch controls Lights 1, 2 and 3.

4. Second switch controls 4, 5, 6

5. Is there a simple wiring diagram for this on the net somewhere? A diagram would be best to explain this. I may end up going to the local Home Depot and picking up a wiring book.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:39 AM   #36
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Dave is correct you can use switch loop, it all depend on how you are supplying power to it. Let me see If I can explain with out a diagram.

run power to the first lights on each switch. Lights 1 and 4.

to run a control switch just connect the black and white wires to the switch and connect one end to the power and another to the light #1. Tape the white wire with black electrical tap at both the switch and light to indicate that this is running power (good for rewiring in future).

Now you can just wire lights 2 and 3 in series with 1.

Do a similiar for lights 4-6.
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Dave is correct you can use switch loop, it all depend on how you are supplying power to it. Let me see If I can explain with out a diagram.

run power to the first lights on each switch. Lights 1 and 4.

to run a control switch just connect the black and white wires to the switch and connect one end to the power and another to the light #1. Tape the white wire with black electrical tap at both the switch and light to indicate that this is running power (good for rewiring in future).

Now you can just wire lights 2 and 3 in series with 1.

Do a similiar for lights 4-6.
Thanks man. I'll try that and see if I understand it correctly.


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I hope that's pressure treated lumber on wall sole/bottom plates, it doesn't look like it from the pics.
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Are you putting in the rails for the drop ceilinf in before you drywall?
If so I would stop. It will be alot easier if you hang the drywall first. Run the drywall up higher than the ceiling will be then hang the ceiling.
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Is that a Tread Mill I see, its probably not getting much use with all the work your doing on the basement. Ever Since my remodel started last year my exercise routine has been do 4X4 curls
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Are you putting in the rails for the drop ceilinf in before you drywall?
If so I would stop. It will be alot easier if you hang the drywall first. Run the drywall up higher than the ceiling will be then hang the ceiling.
In other words - drywall the ducts and walls and finally install the drop ceiling?
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Is that a Tread Mill I see, its probably not getting much use with all the work your doing on the basement. Ever Since my remodel started last year my exercise routine has been do 4X4 curls
Yes, that's definitely a treadmill. I don't use it either. My wife uses it sometimes.

I just use the weights.

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