Not loving the basement pole

Anti-wingnut · 11-12-2009, 10:22 AM

My guess is the whole job would be around $25K, at least

Dave Clee · 11-12-2009, 04:30 PM

Thanks for the insight...I have been trying to contact a structural guy all day.. I guess they are in high demand...

Cheers

Dave

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Originally Posted by Joe F

I recently moved a support column in my basement. My case involved moving it about 4 ft so it could be hidden in a wall. I had an engineer come in
(~$300 bucks) and do all the calculations and tell me what I needed to do to support the new column. It was money very well spent, he even told me where to go to buy the column. He specified a sched 40 column which you can't usually find at the big home stores.

Dave Clee · 11-12-2009, 04:31 PM

$25k ??? Uh....I would love to hear why u think it would be that much..

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Originally Posted by Anti-wingnut

My guess is the whole job would be around $25K, at least

Dave Clee · 11-12-2009, 04:56 PM

Update, Structural engineer will be coming over next week to have a look and assess.

His cost is $400 which will deliver me a plan of attack.

I'll update this post when I find out.

Thanks to everyone for their replies.

Much appreciated.

Cheers

Dave

**oh'mike** · 11-12-2009, 07:44 PM

Good Luck! Anti Wingnut--sounds about right,might even get it painted in that cost!(Illinois)

Scuba_Dave · 11-12-2009, 08:07 PM

Could probably have it gold plated at that price

Dave Clee · 11-12-2009, 08:57 PM

For those of you who are interested, I spent a bit of time this evening opening it up for the engineer..

You can see the other beam that rests on top but it isnt directly under the support pole in question. Its actually 1.5 ft closer to the wall. Hopefully that may help.

Cheers

Dave

joan518 · 11-12-2009, 09:36 PM

My guess is 14" was max span on that size beam, if you are determined to move it and since you have already torn it out, I would ask the engineer if you can build your own beam out of either 2x10's or 2x12's using 3 with 1/2" plywood in between glued and nailed. Contractors build a lot of beams this way here. I would think you would just have to go thick enough to carry the load and go ahead and conceal it in the wall and be rid of it. It may be cheaper to build your own. Good luck, let us know what engineer says, I am curious now. lol

Anti-wingnut · 11-12-2009, 09:37 PM

Alright, maybe I'm wrong. Probably less than $25K. I was thinking west coast. I don't know where you are, but siesmic codes probably do not play much of a role in construction there. You are just worried about a plain old simple vertical load, no shaking.

12 to 16K $ ?

Anti-wingnut · 11-12-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by joan518

My guess is 14" was max span on that size beam, if you are determined to move it and since you have already torn it out, I would ask the engineer if you can build your own beam out of either 2x10's or 2x12's using 3 with 1/2" plywood in between glued and nailed. Contractors build a lot of beams this way here. I would think you would just have to go thick enough to carry the load and go ahead and conceal it in the wall and be rid of it. It may be cheaper to build your own. Good luck, let us know what engineer says, I am curious now. lol

Generally, when steel is used on a SFR, it is because the loads are substantial. I would not bet that an engineer would replace what looks like a W10 with three pieces of dimensional lumber. You are either going to lose head room, or meet some Ironworkers

Dave Clee · 11-12-2009, 10:16 PM

Up here in Ottawa Canada

joan518 · 11-13-2009, 01:09 AM

May try strucalc.com and look for free downloads on calculations of load and span to beam size.

Dave Clee · 11-13-2009, 07:44 AM

Uh....I think I'll leave that to the engineer...Got to make him earn that $400 some how

Cheers

Dave

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Originally Posted by joan518

May try strucalc.com and look for free downloads on calculations of load and span to beam size.

**oh'mike** · 11-13-2009, 07:56 AM

Keep us tuned in-The pictures helped a lot-I have some ideas but I think they are best left unsaid.

The engineer should be able to figure this out-Looks like a job that can be done for a lot less than my first guess.

Scuba_Dave · 11-13-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by joan518

My guess is 14" was max span on that size beam, if you are determined to move it and since you have already torn it out, I would ask the engineer if you can build your own beam out of either 2x10's or 2x12's using 3 with 1/2" plywood in between glued and nailed. Contractors build a lot of beams this way here. I would think you would just have to go thick enough to carry the load and go ahead and conceal it in the wall and be rid of it. It may be cheaper to build your own. Good luck, let us know what engineer says, I am curious now. lol

You won't find wood to support that in its current location
Replacing steel with wood usually will not work, the steel was needed for the load
I thought of steel but went with LVL's, I'd need a crew to install the steel -HEAVY
Strange the post is not right under where the 2 steel beams cross
A friend of mine had steel beam put in, but less span distance, smaller beam