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lmholmes11 06-01-2010 08:04 AM

Noob Question about framing walls
 
Hello,

I bought a house and the previous owner had started a building where he kept cows. It looks like a pavilion, with a roof (new) but no sides, just support beams. I want to make it into a garage. My first question is, when framing two walls together at the corner, the 'L' where the two walls come together are not flush. How do you make them even? I'm having a hard time describing it, but hopefully someone will know what i'm talking about. My second question is what is the general spacing between studs. Is it 18 inches? Also, what kind of plywood should I use for the walls?


Thanks guys, and sorry for the dumb questions!

DrunkNinja 06-11-2010 05:50 PM

I might know what your talking about ....maybe
 
When u say the walls do not come together flush I picture two walls up where the end is like so l_ where the corners do not touch if this is the case add wood measure the gap both ways and you can probably get a piece of lumber machined to fill the gap but u actually have another much better option sheath one side with plywood extending past the gap in the corner to where it would be flush with the adjoining wall than attach a small 2 by 2 or something similar to the plywood in the gap area wich is the inside of the corner
*/ (star is there just for spacing purposes pay it no attention)
L right there than apply your plywood to the adjoining wall screwing the end into the attached 2 by 2 voila problem solved

spacing between studs is usually 16 inches but you can go 24 if u want to save cash

and id go with half inch osb ask your lumber supplier

hopefully i understood the question and hopefully u can understand the answer it would help if instead of emoticons we had buildicons if this isnt the answer u were looking for post a pic and i will use pictures to solve it
:ninja:

oh'mike 06-11-2010 06:15 PM

What you are describing sounds like a pole building without walls------

Google pole building plans---the walls are typically just perlins (horizontal 2x4's) and sheet siding.

Does this pavilion have a poured concrete floor?

jklingel 06-11-2010 10:59 PM

spacing
 
The reference above to spacing of studs in "OC", or "on center". The distance between the studs will be 13.5" on a 16" OC wall, etc. For the walls, the more I read about (and have experience w/) OSB, the more I dislike it. It off-gases noxious stuff, and it swells it if gets wet, in my experience w/ it. The newer stuff is better, but it still ain't plywood. GL. j

Willie T 06-12-2010 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jklingel (Post 454929)
The reference above to spacing of studs in "OC", or "on center". The distance between the studs will be 13.5" on a 16" OC wall, etc. For the walls, the more I read about (and have experience w/) OSB, the more I dislike it. It off-gases noxious stuff, and it swells it if gets wet, in my experience w/ it. The newer stuff is better, but it still ain't plywood. GL. j

Can you please explain how you came up with 13.5"? (Some of us get lost trying to follow this higher mathematics.) :(

kwikfishron 06-12-2010 07:16 AM

Willie, can’t you see the 3x studs? There right there in the picture.

WaldenL 06-12-2010 07:25 AM

I know I framed my rooms with 3x4s, didn't everyone else?

Willie T 06-12-2010 07:43 AM

Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but wouldn't a 3" stud setup be 13" between? :wink:

kwikfishron 06-12-2010 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie T (Post 455039)
Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but wouldn't a 3" stud setup be 13" between?

Yes, if a 3x was 3 and not 2

Willie T 06-12-2010 07:49 AM

:thumbsup: Very quick! :thumbsup:

jklingel 06-12-2010 12:53 PM

higher math/typo
 
Typically, but not always, people frame with kiln dried, dimensional lumber. A "2 by whatever" is actually only (approx) 1.5" thick, or 3/4" from center to edge. Two, 3/4" distances, one from each stud, equal 1.5", so 16" OC minus 1.5" leaves 14.5" clear, not the 13.5" is mistyped above. Sorry for the confusion, and I know some of you cats were ribbing me about my math. That is OK. I retired from teaching math in '01, so I don't have to be able to do arithmetic any more! If anyone is framing w/ 3x4s, I SUSPECT that those are rough cut members, which may well be a true 3" and 4", or a tad more. Ski naked! j

Gary in WA 06-13-2010 04:10 PM

Ah, ha. "Discreet structures" math! Now it is clear!

Be safe, Gary

jklingel 06-13-2010 07:02 PM

stats
 
My MS is in statistics, so I COULD, given enough data, leeway and time to massage, show that the difference between 13.5 and 14.5 is not statistically significant.

kwikfishron 06-13-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jklingel (Post 455772)
My MS is in statistics, so I COULD, given enough data, leeway and time to massage, show that the difference between 13.5 and 14.5 is not statistically significant.

:thumbup: It's all good JK :thumbup:

Willie T 06-13-2010 08:09 PM

It's simple. Come on try it... "I hit the wrong key."

Plays a lot better than trying some justification game.

We were just ribbin' ya. No need to struggle to come out looking good.

We all get careless and blow things from time to time.


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