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supafreeza 04-27-2010 11:02 AM

Non Load Bearing Wall too tight?
 
Hey folks,

I just finished building a non load bearing wall on the second floor in my house to separate a room. I decided not to frame it since there's not much space so I toe-nailed almost all of the 2x4 studs. I put 2 top plates and 1 bottom palte. I thought I cut the studs at the correct length, but I had to hammer some of them into place with a framing hammer.

Should I take the studs down and saw off 1/8"?

Thanks for your help.

Yoyizit 04-27-2010 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by supafreeza (Post 434272)
Should I take the studs down and saw off 1/8"?

I don't see why.

supafreeza 04-27-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoyizit (Post 434275)
I don't see why.

I was thinking there might be too much force between the attic and the second floor. As you can see, I may be overly cautious.

brownmoose 04-27-2010 11:32 AM

You'll be fine. Don't worry about it.

Yoyizit 04-27-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by supafreeza (Post 434283)
I was thinking there might be too much force between the attic and the second floor. As you can see, I may be overly cautious.

I don't know how much downward force is exerted on your floor by these overly long studs. These would be concentrated loads spaced 16" OC on your floor.

Possibly I could scrounge up a formula for column loading given how much each stud bows out, assuming they were initially perfectly straight.

Now I'm thinking you should trim them. :eek:

supafreeza 04-27-2010 05:23 PM

There was a little bowing on some...I believe the highest being about 1/4. I had to press in the horizontal stabilizing pieces. Thanks.

tpolk 04-27-2010 05:26 PM

if its to long fix it...simple

Scuba_Dave 04-27-2010 06:08 PM

1/4" is a bit much to force in
Over time if enough force it could cause the floor to bow down or/and ceiling up that 1/4"
especially if every single stud has been forced in

jomama45 04-27-2010 06:23 PM

Or the odds are, if you bought the lumber at a big box store, it will shrink as it dries out over time. A decent friction fit is normally no problem.

Yoyizit 04-27-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jomama45 (Post 434459)
Or the odds are, if you bought the lumber at a big box store, it will shrink as it dries out over time. A decent friction fit is normally no problem.

I thought only the cross section shrunk in area, not the length.

Gary in WA 04-27-2010 08:56 PM

Trusses?

Wall running perpendicular or with roof ?

Be safe, Gary

supafreeza 04-27-2010 11:45 PM

Thanks a bunch for all the responses guys. I just went to the house and took out the nails from the bottom and used a saw to remove about 1/8 of an inch out. It's seems all good now.

Once again, thanks for all your input.

Yoyizit 04-28-2010 09:53 AM

I found the formula for column buckling/deflection but I couldn't get the same answer as the example problem. Oh, well. . .


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