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Old 11-28-2007, 08:02 AM   #16
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I'm going to do the same - where would I call the local construction office in our Township? I'm in Southern NJ. We'll also have vinyl siding. Again, I thought it was standard but this chat has been so helpful as I'm finding out many things aren't. And, like you, we signed off on any upgrades as well. Our windows are already in as well. Good luck to you - and hopefully to me too!
I'm going to be calling city hall, and asking them for the building inspectors department. You should ask your builder if they are are going to be placing ANY Tyvek on the house. For example, our builder told us they will be placing Tyvek on the corners, and boxes. Good luck to you!

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Old 11-28-2007, 08:10 AM   #17
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I just talked to the building inspector, and they said the code is now state level. They said it's not required unless there is brick.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:30 AM   #18
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Thanks - I'm in Williamstown, NJ. I'll call the township construction office first and see if they can direct me. Its vinyl siding - I'm sure I have the brand name somewhere if needed. I left a note in another room that basically this is my job - my husband is a numbers guy so I do all this legwork. Therefore, I will say again, this site and you nice folks in the chat are a GODSEND!!!
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:40 AM   #19
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I'll reiterate - wrap is extremely important, no matter the siding. Wind-driven rain easily penetrates most types of siding, and then it is the wrap which blocks its further intrusion. The absolute best way is to install furring over the wrap to provide run-off channels for water under the siding - but vinyl, due to loose nailing, generall gives that space anyway. The wrap should also be permeable, letting moisture that somehow does reach beneath it to evaporate. Wrap should be installed per manufacturer spec - top overlapping bottom at least 4", fastened with designated fasteners and taped. Window and doors, a 'modified I' should be cut and wrapped into the opening.

Also, some wraps and some sidings don't work togeather. I.E. cedar shingles contain substances that will eat Tyvek. Under cedar, you want #30 felt. But with vinyl, Tyvek should be fine.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:41 AM   #20
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You have all been helpful with questions I had yesterday and am now running into this same issue. We are building a new house and from what the builder's office is telling me is that they normally dont wrap - I hope she knows what she's talking about! Anyway, thanks for the great questions to ask. I wish I would have checked here first before agreeing to anything. If there's anything else I should ask, please let me know. Of course now, I'm just really anxious about the wrapping. I thought for sure that would have been a standard feature. Live and learn I guess.
If they don't wrap, and thus not part of the options, you can ask if they can customize. Usually, they will gladly do it if they can take a cut of the proceeds.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:44 AM   #21
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I just talked to the building inspector, and they said the code is now state level. They said it's not required unless there is brick.
Well, even with brick, there's usually a layer of tar paper behind it.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:44 AM   #22
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Gotcha - I'm waiting to hear back from the builder. Our house is only 2400 Sq. Ft. not including the basement. If he's going to charge, how much - roughly - do you think it would cost? This will give us a good idea. Thanks again all!

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Old 11-28-2007, 08:50 AM   #23
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Thanks - I'm in Williamstown, NJ. I'll call the township construction office first and see if they can direct me. Its vinyl siding - I'm sure I have the brand name somewhere if needed. I left a note in another room that basically this is my job - my husband is a numbers guy so I do all this legwork. Therefore, I will say again, this site and you nice folks in the chat are a GODSEND!!!

Besides wrap, you have to make sure that the installers use Tyvek tape to seal all seams. Even though I had my wrap installed for cheap by the siding guys, they didn't use wrap for the seams and only around the windows. Correct installation would be wrapping the "box" first and then installing the window, and taping all seams. In my case, for the seams, they just overlapped and stapled.
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Thanks everybody for the wonderful help on this forum!
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:53 AM   #25
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I'm with you Joe!!! Thanks all! I'm sure you'll be hearing from me again - VERY SOON!
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:10 AM   #26
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Gotcha - I'm waiting to hear back from the builder. Our house is only 2400 Sq. Ft. not including the basement. If he's going to charge, how much - roughly - do you think it would cost? This will give us a good idea. Thanks again all!
I'd say probably $1500. Real cost of materials probably no more than $300.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:43 PM   #27
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Dont forget your penetrations through the sheathing need to be sealed also, i.e. hose bibs, conduit penetrations, etc.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:49 PM   #28
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Housewrap was not required by the 2003 IRC, but that was changed and is required by the 2006 IRC. However, not all places require compliance with that set of standards. They are the bare minimum as far as standards of quality are concerned.

For some interesting reading, check out the comments at:

http://www.nachi.org/forum/archive/i...p/t-15057.html

The bottom line is that you don't want to void the mfg. warranty for your siding or any other wall componant, such as your windows by NOT using some type of building paper. Almost all products require some type of building paper, whether it be a housewrap like Tyvek or the old standby, #15 felt.

You want building paper behind any type of siding, but ESPECIALLY vinyl! ... nuf said!

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Old 11-28-2007, 07:24 PM   #29
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If the builder is not using some form of building paper, tar paper or house wrap than how in the world is he flashing your windows? Is he flashing your windows?

If he is doing window flashing and no paper on the house and moisture that gets in the top can not always run past the top layer of flashing, get behind and start to rot.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:44 AM   #30
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Hi all,

I just found out from the builder that normally he just uses tar paper. However, if we want Tyvek its $450 more. Your thoughts? I'm thinking go with the Tyvek but not sure. Opinions are appreciated!!!

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