Forums | Home Repair | Home Improvement | Painting | Interior Decorating | Remodeling | Landscaping


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Building & Construction

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-28-2010, 02:31 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Northern Arizona
Posts: 4
Share |
Default

New construction on existing steel building


I have found a great deal on a property that contains one steel building on it, it has a kitchen and a bathroom so the county considers it a house. It has nothin else in it and I don't like where the bathroom and kitchen are so I was thinking of tearing them out and starting from scratch.

The building is nothing more than one large room with concrete floors, steel walls, a few windows and some plumbing on one end.

My idea is to lay down some steel floor joists so i can rearange the plumbing, then lay down subfloor and use lumber for the interrior framing.

My question is; is this technique feesable? What size steel joists will I need? How do I secure the steel joists to the concrete? will the steel be strong enough to hold the lumber walls?
burton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2010, 04:06 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South of Boston, MA
Posts: 17,248
Default

New construction on existing steel building


Are you laying the steel joists on the concrete ?
If so, why steel instead of wood ?
Scuba_Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Scuba_Dave For This Useful Post:
burton (03-28-2010)
Old 03-28-2010, 04:28 PM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Northern Arizona
Posts: 4
Default

New construction on existing steel building


Well, I just figured steel would be easier than wood because of the pre-cut holes in it. I may end up having to move the plumbing from one end of the building to the other and don't know if it would be better to use steel joists or cut holes in wood ones. Input would be helpful, I know very little about these things.

Last edited by burton; 03-28-2010 at 05:31 PM.
burton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2010, 07:12 PM   #4
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Northern Arizona
Posts: 4
Default

New construction on existing steel building


I have an existing steel building with a concrete floor (much like a small warehouse) it has a kitchen and a bathroom in one end. I am planning on making it into a house and don't know wether to use wood or steel joists for the subfloor support. I need to run plumbing (for the toilets / sinks), water lines, and gas lines throughout the house, also there is enough room (vertically) to put in a 1/2 second story, maybe 2 beds and a bath so I need some structual support in the floor. I have no professional experience and cannot afford to hire a contractor.

I would appriciate any and all feedback from anyone. Thanks.

Last edited by burton; 03-28-2010 at 08:00 PM.
burton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2010, 07:34 PM   #5
Tool Geek
 
PaliBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Pacific Palisades CA
Posts: 2,472
Default

New construction on existing steel building


From what you describe, I think you need to get professional local advice starting with your local building department. You do not want to risk what may be a substantial investment on advice from the internet.

You will need at the very least a jurisdiction inspection to gain a certificate of occupancy which will also be required to get insurance. Find out now what are all the rules and regulations. There may be a hidden reason why you got such a Good Deal.
.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

& Stay Safe
.....Bob Lavery
PaliBob is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to PaliBob For This Useful Post:
burton (03-31-2010)
Old 03-30-2010, 03:06 PM   #6
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Northern Arizona
Posts: 4
Default

New construction on existing steel building


Thanks Bob, but the county has already listed the building as a single family house. I was just wanting to know weather to use steel or wood for the floor joists being laid on the cement. The steel joists have pre-cut holes in them, adversley I would have to cut 3" - 4" holes in the wood, also I was under the impression that it was not a good idea to put wood directly on cement. A vapor barrier would work but I don't know if I would want to completely cover the floor with it, for breathability and all.

Another thing I was thinking about was using wood joists and covering the lower face with Henry's or some other moisture proof paint or something.

Unless it would be easer just to open up the cement floor and re-route the plumbing that way.
burton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2010, 03:22 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: central virginia mountains
Posts: 1,857
Default

New construction on existing steel building


if twas me i would snap lines on the slab for waste lines and start figuring where kitchen, baths etc were going and start calculating waste line elevations to see if i could keep it in the slab with some demolition.this would be cleaner and would help with figuring what was needed for a floor system. if you run water and electrical thru metal studs/joists they need to be protected from metal edges
__________________
The older I get the better I was
tpolk is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tpolk For This Useful Post:
burton (03-31-2010)
Reply

Tags
floor joists, new framing, plubming, remodeling, steel framing


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Building a temporary workshop inside of large pole building HandyDave Building & Construction 0 02-17-2010 08:39 PM
Picking a foundation for shed/simple workshop Corey in NE Building & Construction 30 02-08-2010 11:34 AM
Building an attached garage BowDown Building & Construction 1 05-20-2009 02:21 PM
Lifting a detached Building mlouisiana Building & Construction 2 04-22-2008 08:13 AM
building a pole barn on a existing slab??? scott13676 Building & Construction 3 02-25-2008 06:29 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.