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Old 02-27-2012, 04:53 PM   #16
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You'll need to remove enough of the floor to move the post over so it's centered under the beam, as well as plumb (vertical) in both directions. Getting the "initial hole" in the floor can prove to be challenging, especially because it's sitting on top of the column pad (the floor might be "stuck" to the pad if there's no vapor barrier between the two) and the room appears to be finished already.

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Old 02-27-2012, 05:38 PM   #17
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How wide is the beam? how wide is the post (I'm assuming a 3.5" post?) That post top is very common around here. Want to fix it? Get a jack with a T post made of 2x4's relieve weight from the beam by jacking it up slowly and carefully, you don't need much < 1/16" will work, you just want to take most of the weight off it, then beat the top of the post over till it's centered. Would take someone who knows whats going on about 10-20 mins.
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That post might be an 1-1/2" off center, I can see the tabs bent up on the far side, there are no holes in the beam to connect the post with rivets.

Like Robert said, take some weight off and move the post over enough to center it.

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Old 02-27-2012, 06:03 PM   #19
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The only problem with just "pushing" it over is that there's likely 4"+ already embedded in concrete. I doubt it will be pushed over easily, not to mention it would probably have to ben to do so.
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Honestly, jacking up the beam then beating the post to move it over is probably unnecessary. At best, if you do that, the post will be out of plumb, assuming it is plumb now. And all it gets you is better alignment with the beam. Its been there 20 years? without a major problem, you may be better off leaving it alone. If you absolutely need to fix it because you can't sleep at night knowing there is a misaligned post in your basement, well then the only proper way to do it is to temporarily support the beam by jacking as previously noted, remove the post completely from the foundation, and install a new post plumb, centered under the beam. This is a lot of work, and will not really accomplish much, because that post, although misaligned, still appears to be carrying the load acceptably. Improperly aligned posts are very common, if the foundation is good, and the connection at the top is OK, they are generally not a problem.
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Couldn't agree with you more Daniel, excellent point.

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Old 02-27-2012, 06:41 PM   #22
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if the framing under the beam is tight to beam and is spread over the distance of the beam would not the wall displace the weight of beam and prevent deflection so the pole does not do any thing anyways since wall is there now
it would be like building a center wall across basement in stead of beam to support floor joist to meet joist span requirements
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No way of knowing, with that wall in the way. If the Home Inspector stated exactly that it was a structural problem, not that they just see it as something that needs to get the opinion of someone with more knowledge. Bad thing is, home inspectors are there to strike fear, but also to protect both sides, from something bad. Bad thing is, if they try to state they think that it is a problem, without reviewing some kind of report, or that "here is how to fix it", it opens them to a liability, that you or the seller wants them to fix it.
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The only problem with just "pushing" it over is that there's likely 4"+ already embedded in concrete. I doubt it will be pushed over easily, not to mention it would probably have to ben to do so.
We're talking about moving the top, not the bottom, the top will move (somewhat easily) even with the bottom encased in concrete.
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Jeez, just weld the bloody beam to the post flange.

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Get Holmes in there, he'll tear out the whole basement and give you a new bathroom with flashing LED lights under the sink and a 3D Hi-Def TV over the whirlpool tub. (And fix the pole) While he's at it he'll find out something's wrong with the kitchen and the garage too, resulting in those being completely replaced.

Speaking of which... If that's a bathroom on the other side of that wall, which I assume it is given that I can see a bathtub... Shouldn't we be able to see vapor barrier behind the drywall? Is that bathroom a remodel that wasn't part of the original construction? Was it permitted and inspected?
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ok i have seen this mention a few times about it being code to have moisture barrier behind or above shower what code and where is it at in code book
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R307.2 Bathtub and shower spaces. Bathtub and shower floors and walls above bathtubs with installed shower heads and in shower compartments shall be finished with a nonabsorbent surface. Such wall surfaces shall extend to a height of not less than 6 feet (1829 mm) above the floor.

This part of the code does not state anything about a vapor barrier behind the substrate that the tile adheres to. As you know grout is an absorbent material, water will travel through it to the substrate which is also absorbent. A 6 mil. vapor barrier behind all of the a fore mentioned materials will make the shower wall system compliant with code.

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Looking again, if you want a code violation, how about that wire - why is it over the one board and then at the very next board it's protected by a nail plate?

I think maybe these little signs suggest maybe this area might not be quite right.

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