Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Building & Construction

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-12-2011, 11:46 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 2
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


I am getting a bunch of different opinions so lets add a few more. I know I need to use galvanized nails on Hardi board siding but do you use roofing or framing nails. And to add to it if you use framing do you use smooth or ringed nails. I like to use ringed nails but don`t know if they will tear up my Hardi board. Or does it really matter----Thank you

steelpony5555 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2011, 12:47 AM   #2
Contractor - Renovations
 
fungku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 260
Rewards Points: 250
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


Siding nails are good. similar to roofing nails.

Rings are good too.

Nails - Wood Framing
• Siding nail (0.09" shank x 0.221" HD x 2" long)
• 11ga. roofing nail (0.121" shank x 0.371" HD x 1.25" long)

OSB minimum 7/16"
• 11ga. roofing nail (0.121" shank x 0.371" HD x 1.75" long)
• Ribbed Wafer-head or equivalent (No. 8 x 1 5/8" long x 0.375" HD).

Instead of asking for advice and getting "different opinions" go to the Hardie website and you can get a PDF installation guide.

They will tell you what nails to use, how and where to nail, etc.

Any advice counter to that guide could void your manufacturer's warranty, so use it.

Here: http://www.jameshardie.com/homeowner/helpSupport_instructions.shtml


Last edited by fungku; 02-13-2011 at 12:53 AM.
fungku is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2011, 01:01 AM   #3
Contractor - Renovations
 
fungku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 260
Rewards Points: 250
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


Oh and their best practices guide is very good, from what I've read of it.

It would be very good for someone who doesn't have a lot of experience installing siding.

*hint hint*
fungku is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2011, 09:41 AM   #4
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 2
Rewards Points: 10
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


Thanks, the last link you provided was alot clearer then the link from the Hardi's main page. I read the requirments on Hardi's web page but have talked to local contractors and they all seem to have their own way to doing it. I am gonna stick to roofing nails for the lap siding as i had figured since they have a larger head. I mainly was wondering about the ringed nails that some contractors use, but I thought they would tear up the cement board going in. I have done vinyl siding in the past but have never done Hardi board.
steelpony5555 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2011, 09:57 AM   #5
Framing Contractor
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Caldwell, NJ
Posts: 1,758
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


Quote:
Originally Posted by steelpony5555 View Post
Thanks, the last link you provided was alot clearer then the link from the Hardi's main page. I read the requirments on Hardi's web page but have talked to local contractors and they all seem to have their own way to doing it. .
And that's what will get them in trouble if something ever fails. You HAVE to follow Hardie installation. If something fails and they come out to inspect it and you don't follow their installation guide, they will not cover anything. And they shouldn't. Print out their installation guide and follow everything they tell you to do. Good Luck!

Pay attention to the detail depending on what zone your in to the height that you keep the bottom of the siding off the steps, deck, roof and above window and door trim. Very important. Look at figure 2, 3, 4 and 5.

http://www.jameshardie.com/pdf/insta...hingle-hz5.pdf
__________________
Joe Carola

Last edited by Joe Carola; 02-13-2011 at 10:03 AM.
Joe Carola is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2011, 06:34 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
Posts: 212
Rewards Points: 156
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Carola View Post
If something fails and they come out to inspect it and you don't follow their installation guide, they will not cover anything. And they shouldn't.
If your deviation from their recommendations had nothing to do with the failure, seems kinda sleazy to weasel out of their responsibility.
A Squared is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2011, 07:26 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 40
Rewards Points: 25
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


Hot dipped galvanized 8d. Roofing nails? There's a reason that they are called roofing nails.
Tigerloose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2011, 07:37 PM   #8
Member
 
Tom Struble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: west milford n.j.
Posts: 2,785
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


use stainless only,they are worth the added cost, and yes you can get roofing nails in stainless
Tom Struble is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tom Struble For This Useful Post:
fungku (02-13-2011), kwikfishron (02-13-2011)
Old 02-13-2011, 07:58 PM   #9
Contractor - Renovations
 
fungku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 260
Rewards Points: 250
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


Quote:
Originally Posted by A Squared View Post
If your deviation from their recommendations had nothing to do with the failure, seems kinda sleazy to weasel out of their responsibility.
it's not weaseling. It's a very simple agreement between the manufacturer and consumer.

Do it the way it is supposed to be done and you have a warranty.

Do it the way it is not supposed to be done you have no warranty.

It is your choice which way you want to go. Don't complain if it bites you in the ass later.
fungku is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2011, 07:58 PM   #10
Framing Contractor
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Caldwell, NJ
Posts: 1,758
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


Quote:
Originally Posted by A Squared View Post
If your deviation from their recommendations had nothing to do with the failure, seems kinda sleazy to weasel out of their responsibility.
If you put the bottom of the siding 1" off the roof and it fails because they tell you to put it 2" off the roof they will not cover it. That's what I'm talking about. There's a reason why they tell you to keep it 2" off the roof, so it doesn't fail. It's not their responsibility because you don't listen to proper installation. Why should it be? If you did install it 2" above and it failed and they tried to weasel their way out of it, then you can say that they are sleazy.
__________________
Joe Carola
Joe Carola is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2011, 08:48 PM   #11
Mod
 
kwikfishron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kansas (NCK)
Posts: 7,729
Rewards Points: 2,458
Default

Nailing Hardi board siding


I use Stainless Steel Ring Shank Roofing Nails on Hardi Lap.

If the product is supposed to last "almost forever", the nails should too.

__________________
A Picture Is Worth A Thousand Words
Especially In The DIY Chatroom

Last edited by kwikfishron; 02-13-2011 at 08:52 PM.
kwikfishron is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
vinyl siding OR cement board prefinished???? 4just1don General DIY Discussions 1 06-07-2010 11:55 AM
Installing Hardi board firreal Remodeling 2 10-21-2009 06:41 PM
New siding, paint exsisting siding, or powerwash?? fixiechick General DIY Discussions 5 01-23-2009 12:50 AM
Board and Batten wood siding Knucklez Building & Construction 39 11-07-2008 11:38 AM
Loose hardi siding thegarbache Painting 1 10-03-2007 10:41 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.