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Old 02-18-2013, 03:49 PM   #31
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The complete kit contains;

The tray, in this case 32x60"
2 - 48" x 6" x 4.5" curbs
1 - 3' 3" x 33' membrane
1 - roll 5" x 33' Kerdi Band
1 - Kerdi drain
4 inside corners - 2 outside corners - 1 Pipe seal for shower head - 1 mixing valve seal.

This is enough for most regular size showers. Some people run out of material though and then you need to find someone who sells separately. Do the math and see how it works for your shower.

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I'm going to do the sand mix bed, the Shluter drain, kerdi membrane. I'm going to do cement backer board on one wall and drywall on the others. Unless there is a small difference in price. I'd just as soon go with backer board for its rigidity.

I like the sand mix bed because I can slope it no matter where my drain ends up vs having to have the 2" pvc drain exactly in the center. Plus I'm dealing with a sloped concrete pad already and rather than making in level then sloping it I can just correct the slope with the sand mix.
Interesting idea! how do you plan to waterproof the mud bed? do you just lay the membrane on top the mud bed? can you help me visualise your idea? I have a corner seat so I'm thinking of using cement board.
my drain isn't at the dead center of the shower. it's 24" away from one wall and about 30" from the other. the dimension is 32"X53.5".
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Interesting idea! how do you plan to waterproof the mud bed? do you just lay the membrane on top the mud bed? can you help me visualise your idea? I have a corner seat so I'm thinking of using cement board.
my drain isn't at the dead center of the shower. it's 24" away from one wall and about 30" from the other. the dimension is 32"X53.5".
JazMan can correct me if I'm wrong but the kerdi membrane can go right over the sand/mud bed, then tile on top of that.
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My whole shower will be 32" x 72". The pan will be 32"x60 and I will have a 12" bench seat at the end of it opposite the shower head. I can get you a good picture of it later and draw in where I plan to frame walls, bench, curb. I think I will lay it all out and mark the walls with the proper elevations, mark the drain pipe with the proper elevation, cut it off and stuff a rag down. Then I should have all the marks I need to properly slope the bed 1/4" / 12". That is my plan now of course its already changed a few times so it might change again!
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JazMan can correct me if I'm wrong but the kerdi membrane can go right over the sand/mud bed, then tile on top of that.
Yes of course, that's how you get a slopped floor in a shower. Look at Kerdi showers; http://picasaweb.google.com/10143435...rZkDxgQWm9zA1Q

Also go here, then select videos, then the 3rd choice. http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit.aspx

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so I just dry fitted a regular shower drain on my drain pipe and looks like it's 2" above the bare concrete. It looks too high to me. I was told around the drain the pre pan should be about a 1/4"? Do I cut the drain pipe shorter to accomodate the drain fitting to achieve the 1/4"-1/2" height?
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So, are you going with the traditional method or kerdi?

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I'm confused Jaz. but either way, I would like to correct the drain height first. I called few other Kerdi dealers locally and the part that's confusing me is, I don't have my drain at the dead center as I mentioned in a previous post. so if I go with a 32x60 and cut one side of it to fit my shower floor, I think one side would be higher than the other and the tiles won't match up.
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OK, so it's 6" longer on one side which equals 1/8" height difference. No problem. How is it the other way, the width? Cut it so the opening works for the pipe riser, then fill the sides if the width is more than 32" as necessary. Use deck mud, (sand mix) for that. Install the wall tiles, the thickness of floor tile will make up for any small height difference caused by the offset.

As for the height of the 2" drain pipe, which drain did you dry fit? A regular 2 piece I imagine, yes? The measurement will be different. This is for the Kerdi drain, you cut it once you have everything on hand.



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I dont know what size you are looking for but Floor and Decor has the 32x60 center drain one for 400. You can order it online if you dont have a store locally.

Are you taking into account the thickness of the tile? I'll wait til other tile guys get here to answer. I just left my drain pipe about 5" above the level of my concrete. Ill cut it off to the proper height once i measure everything out.
Their kit does not include the drain kit.
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JazMan,
can you please look at this and let me know if this has all that I need? I'll take a picture of my bath to give you an idea on what I'm dealing with but roughly I have the following measurements.
floor: 32"X53.5"
3 walls
sidewall: 53.5"X7'
backwall: 32"X7'
front wall: 32"x7'
curb: 53.5"

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Their kit does not include the drain kit.
Really? I went to the store and looked at them. It says it does on the box. Did you talk to someone?
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You are NOT gonna get the kit with the drain for $400, impossible. I've seen them from $510 - $550. I get $510 with stainless steel drain.

Kim, I'll figure what you need later when I have time. I sell the fabric by the foot, cuz many people do not have enough with what comes in the kit. It's not good to run out....then what? It'll cost many $$$ to get a small roll of membrane by itself.

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Really? I went to the store and looked at them. It says it does on the box. Did you talk to someone?
yes, I called the Colorado store and talked to a lady. she said it doesn't include the drain which costs $119.xx
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Yeah my bad. I just called them too. Damn what a jip!

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