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Old 03-11-2013, 08:37 AM   #31
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yes, i understand that. but the header and "typically" what the header is holding up, doesn't weight much. therefor the trimmer/jack doesn't need to have its own footing. in all that i have seen, the jack & king set on the bottom plate.
So, now your saying the trimmers do not need to bear on a footing or an exterior wall?

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Old 03-11-2013, 09:09 AM   #32
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So, now your saying the trimmers do not need to bear on a footing or an exterior wall?
beam supports, whether called trimmers, jacks or columns must bear upon some type of structural element that is capable of supporting the load transferred from the beam. Structural elements can consists of another beam or a footing.

All loads are required to follow a path capable of supporting them down to the ground (where the ground must be capable of supporting loads).
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:46 AM   #33
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So, now your saying the trimmers do not need to bear on a footing or an exterior wall?
I agree with someone earlier that said you should get yourself a framing book or maybe an intro to physics book. At minimum a Statics book would really help you understand the basics of loads and load transfer.

Everyone who understands and has answered here is saying the same thing. I believe it is your limited knowledge and understanding that continues to make this a difficult conversation.

Also stated before, everyone needs to learn somehow, if you have a specific situation at hand then post pictures, drawings, sketches, or a better description and the great folks on here will help you thru it.

If this is for a test, I'd say you're in bad shape.
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I agree with someone earlier that said you should get yourself a framing book or maybe an intro to physics book. At minimum a Statics book would really help you understand the basics of loads and load transfer.

Everyone who understands and has answered here is saying the same thing. I believe it is your limited knowledge and understanding that continues to make this a difficult conversation.

Also stated before, everyone needs to learn somehow, if you have a specific situation at hand then post pictures, drawings, sketches, or a better description and the great folks on here will help you thru it.

If this is for a test, I'd say you're in bad shape.
excuse me? When have I disagreed with what anyone has said here? huh big mouth? Keep your damn comments to yourself or I can make a little to call to a person I know that knows someone who "might" be running this site and give them your name.
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excuse me? When have I disagreed with what anyone has said here? huh big mouth? Keep your damn comments to yourself or I can make a little to call to a person I know that knows someone who "might" be running this site and give them your name.
I never once said you disagreed with anyone on here. Feel free to pass my name and comments along to anyone you'd like to. I'm sure they'll see it the same way I do.

Good luck with your project.
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excuse me? When have I disagreed with what anyone has said here? huh big mouth? Keep your damn comments to yourself or I can make a little to call to a person I know that knows someone who "might" be running this site and give them your name.

in the words of that great American Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along??????" we may not always agree, but we all can agree to disagree sometimes

trimmers (also known as jacks & columns) typically support part of the load of a beam, so yes you are correct in that trimmers support beams.
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pretty much everything in a structure is load bearing, to one extent or another. the issue is = does it need to be "directly" supported by the foundation, as the OP is asking. the trimmers in most interior doors do not need to be directly supported . neither are the 2x4's in a non load bearing wall. i would not call a "header" a beam, even though it is to a small extent. to me a beam is something that holds a load and is over 6'. though there are always exceptions.
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mike. don't be hostile = no one will help you then.

and post pics and description of what you want to do, or think you need to do. this will be the easiest path to us helping you understand.

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