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Old 07-20-2011, 06:08 PM   #1
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The picture with green and red lines is the current setup. The green lines are outside walls and the red line is inside. If it's a load bearing wall would adding a wall where the yellow is and getting rid of the red most likely be okay? I haven't had time to get in the attic and look at the ceiling joists but the wall does run perpendicular to the floor joists. I will try to get some photos later.
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Old 07-20-2011, 09:29 PM   #2
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Confused lol..

So this load bearing wall is on the main floor with floor joists running bearing on it? Whats in the attic that you need to investigate?

Basically adding the yellow wall where it is on the photo, you would need a load bearing wall directly below the one on the main floor.

Why not put a flush header in the wall that spans the gap?

We need pics to get a better idea!

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Old 07-20-2011, 09:37 PM   #3
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Pictures of the outside of the house and roof.

The room and the attic.

I doubt if your plan is sound.
We need more info.
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:30 PM   #4
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I'll try to clear things up...It's a single story residence. The part sticking out is part of the master bathroom which is getting remodeled. I'm planning on removing the red wall and adding a wall where the yellow is. I would use a header but it would look funny in the middle of the room right there.

The attached image is of the entire house....the red box is where the bathroom is.
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In order to help we need to know how the roof is built--truss or stick.

Which way the ceiling joists run---

exactly what is sitting on top of the wall.
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We still don't know exactly what the roof system is on your house, if it is a conventional ceiling joist/rafter system there is a possibility that you can run a beam in the attic above the ceiling joists and tie them to the beam instead of a header below the ceiling joist in the room. We just need to know what is going on in the attic.
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:43 PM   #7
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I have a truss roof and the joists run perpendicular to the wall I want to move. I'm just moving the wall 5 feet and was hoping it wouldn't sacrifice the integrity to do that. The ceiling joists are 24.5" OC and 2x4. The joists in the section that protrudes from the house run in the opposite direction than the other ones.

If you refer back to the original post...it's about 5 feet from the yellow to the red wall. The red wall being where I want to put the new one and the yellow being the one I want to get rid of.
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If I understand what you are tryingto say thenby removing the wall your truss will not be resting on anything. You can not move the wall back and expect the bottom cord to hold the weight, it's not going to happen. The wall top plate is what is holding the weight of the roof for those trusses and you probably have a califorina roof over thatg area from the bathroom roof ao that will add more weight. It will be alot harder and expensive to redesign the truss to do what I think you are talking about. My opinion is you are going to have to settle with a beam which may only have to be 8", and since it is the entry into the bathroom make it a drop or an arch look.
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From the picture it looks like that is not bearing--Is there a reason that you can't post the pictures I asked for?

What does the outside of that roof look like?
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Here are two pictures of the roof....the part that protrudes is the one half of the bathroom and the other half is on the inside.
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Are the tails of the main house trusses sitting on top of the wall?

Could you stick your camera onto the hole and get a shot of the top of that wall??
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Are the tails of the main house trusses sitting on top of the wall?

Could you stick your camera onto the hole and get a shot of the top of that wall??
I believe they are...I will verify asap when I have time to tear down the ceiling....I've been trying to avoid the mess of insulation for the time being.
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That wall can not be removed that wall without replacing it with a beam sized to carry the roof load. Your yellow line is irrelevant.

For a few hundred bucks you can have a draftsman draw up the plans you need for you to submit for a permit.

If you live in the land of no regulation, building departments and permits (as I do) refer back to my first sentence.
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and if it helps any...the wall is approx 5'6 in length.
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That helps for the beam size you need to get to hold up the roof.

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