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Old 11-21-2011, 03:10 PM   #1
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I am curious if anyone can tell me if the 2 walls in these photos are load bearing. yes i realize it may be hard to tell, pls do your best.

We would like to remove the 2 walls between the living room and kitchen.

#1 the wall in front of the sink [far wall] and to the left of it [where fridge is]

#2 the right wall, behind the cabinet. [between the kitchen and living room], adn to the right of it

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Judging by the width of the living rooms, the probability of the walls being load bearing is high. What shape is the roof? This may also rely on these walls for support. Can you get up the manhole and look into the ceiling space? Do the walls meet at a corner? More info please. Photos inside ceiling space if possible would assist 100%. These would show what is sitting on the wall plate.

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Old 11-21-2011, 04:06 PM   #3
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The pictures are actually from the main floor of the townhouse. There is an upper floor [can post pics if you like not sure that will help?].

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The roof is a triangle shape , sorry I'm not there so don't have pictures of the ceiling space.

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The walls meet the other units that are on its opposite sides.

My main concern is if we could take down the walls. We want to redo the kitchen then open up that entire are to make a large open living space.

Would it be possible to put a support beam across to support the load, or is that a little far fetched?

here is a very quick draft of the place.

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Old 11-21-2011, 04:27 PM   #4
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to be honest, those photos dont really give me any sense of what your house layout is.. there just photos of a kitchen and dining room from my perspective..

can you draw up a floor plan/layout of what you have to help clarify.. ive torn out plenty of bearing walls and installed beams to replace them... but in order to figure things out i need to see what the layout of the house is and a better look at the floor framing above/below
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ok based on that sketch its looks to be mostly open concept.. since its a townhouse the only bearing wall i can possibly see is the party wall seperating the units. based on that it might all be clear span joists/trusses..
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Here's a link to the rest of the photos
http://www.realtor.ca/PropertyPhotos...02&PhotoNum=10
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I guess after noting it's two storeys, both walls are most likely (I'd even say certain) load bearing.

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Is there a basement or a slab?
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Here is the floorplan of the unit to this right [bottom of my image, where fireplace is]

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yes a basement. i believe same layout as other t-house
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I'm totally confused. You're first sketch plan bears no resemblance to the more accurate floor plans posted later. What walls are we talking about?. The only wall I can see dividing the kitchen and living space is the wall between the foyer and kitchen. If this is the wall, I wouldn't remove it, as you want some privacy from someone at the entry from the kitchen. Sorry, I've just realized the plan I'm talking about is next door unit. Haven't you got a similar plan of your unit that shows what's above the ground floor?
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I found it ...

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Wall in red to be removed
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The topic of "is this a load bearing wall" seems to be a favorite on this forum. Do a search, you will see dozens of posts. I am not going to repeat my previous posts here. Suffice it to say that a load bearing wall is one that bears more than its own dead weight. There are two accepted ways to determine if a wall is load bearing. One way is if you have accurate floor plans, you can trace all the loads downward to the wall to calculate how much load it bears. Option two is to open up the space above the wall to see what bears on the wall.

Oh yes, there is a third technique that has been suggested, namely removing the wall to see if the house falls down. Bad plan. Since you apparently do not have accurate floor plans, you are going to have to look above the wall, either with a flexible wand camera (very cool, a mini tv camera on the end of a flexible wand), or more invasive procedures.

As to replacing the wall with a beam, that can almost always be done, the issue is usually one of cost. Cost depends on ease of construction and the required size of the beam, which depends on the load and the span.

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