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Old 08-08-2012, 06:56 PM   #16
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Thanks for the replies!

They placed two 2x4 studs on either side of the original cluster of 4 studs (a total of 4 studs added = 8 studs; 4 properly installed). The did remove the NM electric wires then drill through the new studs and re-route the NM cable (which I feared they would notch, as Sixeightten mentioned). So the electrical is definitely good.

My thought is that while not preferable, this fix is satisfactory. Reasoning: the beam required 4 studs to support the load, it now has 4 properly installed studs (albeit 3" off-center to either side because of the original 4 studs). While the 4 original shimmed/uselessly-strapped studs may or may not help bear weight of that load point, the other 4 studs will bear the weight.

Do you all think this fix is now acceptable?

Thank you all for the help!

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Why are they short?
Gap on bottom and top? or only one?
These questions still remain.
The answer to this will help me (and others) to say if the 'fix' is good.
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These questions still remain.
The answer to this will help me (and others) to say if the 'fix' is good.
Why are they short? Not sure.
Gap on bottom and top? or only one? 3 of 4 original studs had no gap at top.

Regarding reasons for the studs being short: Perhaps this was likely because the wall was built on the ground then raised. Dunno. I just want to be certain it is fixed.
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I think that if this is your dream home I would pull all of that apart and put it back together properly. If you start with bad bones in a house you will never forgive yourself when other things don't fit right down the road.
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Hard to be certain it is fixed if you don't know the root cause.
Usually all studs are cut to same length, or bought pre-cut. If they are all the same length then why the gap? Then something is wonky (technical term)
Building on the floor and tilting into place should have nothing to do with it.

If they are shorter then the gap is easily understandable.

Structurally the fix is probably OK. Building inspector has final say on that.
Can create more of a cold spot because of no insulation there with all that wood.
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I would not stand for that. I would have told them that either they a) temp support the beam and R&R the jackstuds (this being preferable) or b) trim 1-1/2 off the bottom (providing the top is flush to the bottom of the beam) and install additional bottom plate.

That fix is hack work, if that is a south facing wall then you are definitely going to have a hot spot on that wall with no insulation where all those studs are side-by-side.

You shouldn't have let them pursue that fix when they told you what they were going to do, and neither should the inspector. But I'm sure that their fix will support that beam, it's just not ideal at all.

Construction companies come and go, and for them to just say that they have a warranty for these type of situations is deceiving, cause you will be left holding the water when they are out of business from legal fees from this type of work. I just can't believe what they did with the first "fix" sawdust and tin foil, pathetic.

And what is the deal with the junction boxes on the left side of the pictures?
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Looks to me like that is a kitchen and that box is for the stove?????

I 100% agree that this looks like shoddy work.

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