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Old 08-16-2012, 10:36 AM   #16
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I have no expertise but want to follow your progress and hope you can get this fixed. And as was mentioned, that is a very lovely looking home.

Please keep us updated.

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First given you budget, I would contact the building department and see if you can get a consultation on fixing this, and what needs to be done regarding permitting.

Personally, depending on your skill set I would in your shoes be installing a temp brace for the roof, and then begin demoing and excavating. After the demo and excavation is done, I'm sure contractors will have a greater propensity of giving you a good bid and taking the job. As the house sits right now, without a contractor knowing what surprises are covered up their bids are going to cover their butts, and the prices will reflect so. If you get it uncovered and they can see what they are getting themselves into, as well as, not having to budget for the demo and excavation (which your are more than likely capable of doing) they will be willing to consider taking the job.
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Old 08-16-2012, 03:08 PM   #18
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Just a thought, if you contact a house mover they will usually have airbags that can lift that and maybe even move it, then the footing could be corrected and the column replaced.
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Update:

Just to keep the thread up to date. I had a mason come and look at the situation. He was basically uncomfortable from start with the prospect of the job.

He told me that my Mcyver solution would probably be doable given I have thick enough bars drilled into the footing,

He basically said that as a last resort he COULD demo it, get a sub contractor make a footing, and he would re-lay the brick. At a cost of about $4000.

I called 7 masons, he's the first to show up. 3 others told me they were coming today, but never showed.
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If you could get the weight off of it somehow, with that setup it would be hard to do. You could probably push it back straight....undermine it to the frost line and fill the hole with concrete. After a few days let the weight back on it.
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If you could get the weight off of it somehow, with that setup it would be hard to do. You could probably push it back straight....undermine it to the frost line and fill the hole with concrete. After a few days let the weight back on it.

What do you mean by "push it back straight"? any ideas on how I could do that?
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Once you get the weight off just push, or even a ratcheting tie strap from the other column next to it and crank it over
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Once you get the weight off just push, or even a ratcheting tie strap from the other column next to it and crank it over
Ok... I'm starting to get the idea.

Do you think I should use the far, larger size pillar, to wrap a large nylon racheting strap around and use to "pull" up the leaning one? or do you think the closer, shorter one would work?

I'd be a little afraid to use have the strap directly against the stones though. Maybe I could use a 4"x4"x4' with a rabit groove held against the outside corners of the columns... do you get my meaning?
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I'm not there but you get the idea, whatever works.
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Its not going to take alot of force to get it back to where it wants to be anyway...put cardboard under the straps.
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Ok... I'm starting to get the idea.

Do you think I should use the far, larger size pillar, to wrap a large nylon racheting strap around and use to "pull" up the leaning one? or do you think the closer, shorter one would work?

I'd be a little afraid to use have the strap directly against the stones though. Maybe I could use a 4"x4"x4' with a rabit groove held against the outside corners of the columns... do you get my meaning?


Not a good idea to put that kind of stress on that column,or you may have a bigger problem on your hands.
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We have two columns of similar stone block construction at the front of our driveway, about the same size as yours. One had a similar lean. The mason placed vertical boards at the corners and tightened ratchet tie downs to hold the column together. Then he drove wedges between the bottom of the column and the top of the footing until the column was plumb. It has stayed perfectly plumb for the last 20 years.
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We have two columns of similar stone block construction at the front of our driveway, about the same size as yours. One had a similar lean. The mason placed vertical boards at the corners and tightened ratchet tie downs to hold the column together. Then he drove wedges between the bottom of the column and the top of the footing until the column was plumb. It has stayed perfectly plumb for the last 20 years.
HHmm, very interesting idea. Sounds like it a very reasonable approach to this problem.

Where you around when the work was done? How did they drive the wedge in? What was it made of? Was it reinforced any in any other way like epoxy on the space around the wedge?
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Those driveway columns were not holding up a porch roof.
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Those driveway columns were not holding up a porch roof.
I will be able to take all weight off the column before I do any work. I've also been looking closer at the wood section that sits on the top of the column. On the one that is leaning I can slide a string under it and feel that only one corner is actually holding any weight. The wood is around a 2"x10" thickness, I don't think the roof needs much support, the way it's built.

I think a wedge, with some type of hardener in the wedge crack, could maybe work.

What do you use in the crack if anything?

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