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02-02-2013, 04:33 PM
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Leak where brick wall meets vinyl siding
I found a crack in the caulk that seals this siding trim to the front brick wall. I pried open the crack a bit and can see the wall OSB behind it. It seems odd to me that the only protection against water/wind is a bead of caulk. Shouldn't there be some flashing behind this to channel water? I am trying to find proper installation instructions for this piece (and the name of the piece) along with what (if any) proper flashing should be installed at this brick to vinyl siding transition. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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02-02-2013, 04:48 PM
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That's as good as your going to get with it built like that.
Just need to use a better caulking.
http://www.osipro.com/products.pl?id=QUAD
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02-02-2013, 05:01 PM
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that should be flashed, caulking alone will fail over time it should have a metal flashing thats set into caulking at the brick, then a peel and stick flashing tape on the metal onto the house wrap.. from there the j channel goes back on
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02-02-2013, 05:49 PM
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Thank you for the replies. woodworkbykirk, would you be able to reference any documentation/images/instruction that describes the technique you're describing? I've been searching through siding installation instructions online and haven't found something to reference this situation although it seems common at least in my area.
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02-02-2013, 06:21 PM
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aluminum coil stock is the most economical flashing you can use. the peel and stick membrane is self sealing so any nail holes that are made from the siding trim wont leak
blueskin, vycor, resisto, 3m flex flash are all types of peel and stick membrane.. unfortunatley i dont have any pictures at this time
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02-02-2013, 06:43 PM
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I think I can visualize what you are describing. Anyone know what the piece is called that is caulked to the brick behind the downspout?
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02-02-2013, 06:46 PM
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J moulding
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02-03-2013, 10:23 AM
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to properly flash that you will need to remove the downspout and that J channel moulding and remove siding back to the joints up the entire height of the brick section of wall. flash properly and then put it all back up on the wall...
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02-03-2013, 02:47 PM
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Peeked behind one of the seams in the siding and found my house has no wrap over the OSB. Thinking if I just recaulk it the protection will be better than the rest of the house!
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02-03-2013, 02:57 PM
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You mean you don't want to take off half a wall worth of siding instead of simply maintaining a bead of caulk? 
Kirk's method is correct and ideal, but I would have to agree with your conclusion given the circumstances: Just caulk it.
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02-03-2013, 05:28 PM
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caulking will only seal it if the water is coming from off the face of the chimney itself.. if theres water getting behind the siding higher up the caulking isnt going to stop that
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02-04-2013, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
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caulking will only seal it if the water is coming from off the face of the chimney itself.. if theres water getting behind the siding higher up the caulking isnt going to stop that
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Who said there is a leak? ...or that this is a chimney?
I believe that the first post states that it is a front brick wall. Any exposed interface above would most certainly need flashing, and as I mentioned, it would be ideal here as well, but probably not worth the effort if there is no existing leakage issue... particularly if it is under an overhang.
A couple more pics would probably give a better idea of the situation.
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02-04-2013, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
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Who said there is a leak? ...or that this is a chimney?
I believe that the first post states that it is a front brick wall. Any exposed interface above would most certainly need flashing, and as I mentioned, it would be ideal here as well, but probably not worth the effort if there is no existing leakage issue... particularly if it is under an overhang.
A couple more pics would probably give a better idea of the situation.
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outside corners are certainly candidates for leaks from the wind blowing the moisture around the corners, on most houses some corners are worse than others.. good point on what is above the corner and how much moisture is the corner exposed to, over hangs etc...
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02-04-2013, 01:20 PM
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I think the poster posted the photo kind of sideways. Think he is describing this situation where one face of the house is brick veneer and the adjacent face is vinyl siding.
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02-04-2013, 01:21 PM
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I rotated the posters original photo 90 degrees clockwise
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