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Old 12-19-2012, 12:23 AM   #16
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bottom line is, this wall is not load bearing. going to f*cking tear it down this weekend

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I don't think that is load bearing---the 12" extension was added many years after the original framing---

Your pictures were to close up for me to see what it would be holding up---
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I don't think that is load bearing---the 12" extension was added many years after the original framing---

Your pictures were to close up for me to see what it would be holding up---
let me take a pic for you mike. thanks
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:02 AM   #19
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this is what it looks like above the 'header"
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:05 AM   #20
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this is other side , closest to exterior wall
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:17 AM   #21
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Once again your not going to like my answer - This is the same type of question you asked before. Yes I have my guess and that is all any of us can do with a few pics on the interwebs. Like others I did reno work for years and have found that not every situation follows the proper load bearing 'rules', especially when you get into older houses.

So my advice . . . "Get someone in to look at it" if not an SE then a carpenter experienced in older home renovations.

Yes there are guys on here who will guess that it isn't load bearing. They might be right and they might be wrong. It has happened before. There was a thread where someone came asking if something was structural, many said have someone look at it, a few said it wasn't. The home owner did have someone look at it, guess what? IT WAS STRUCTURAL!!!!! If he would have just went on the advice of those who said it wasn't he could have caused serious problems.

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What is the species/span/size of the joists; are they flat roof rafters- compare for local snow load. Maybe the wall was added afterward for a room separator (partition) or added for a sagging roof... check and compare with/without the wall; (after ceiling joist tables, scroll down) http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...?bu2=undefined

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So my advice . . . "Get someone in to look at it" if not an SE then a carpenter experienced in older home renovations.
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Once again your not going to like my answer - This is the same type of question you asked before. Yes I have my guess and that is all any of us can do with a few pics on the interwebs. Like others I did reno work for years and have found that not every situation follows the proper load bearing 'rules', especially when you get into older houses.

So my advice . . . "Get someone in to look at it" if not an SE then a carpenter experienced in older home renovations.

Yes there are guys on here who will guess that it isn't load bearing. They might be right and they might be wrong. It has happened before. There was a thread where someone came asking if something was structural, many said have someone look at it, a few said it wasn't. The home owner did have someone look at it, guess what? IT WAS STRUCTURAL!!!!! If he would have just went on the advice of those who said it wasn't he could have caused serious problems.
hey man! thanks for coming in here. i totaly understand what you mean, i really do. this is why i post on here to get your ideas and opinions. and i really appreciate everything you say because you guys are so honest and no BS.

if you dont mind me just bugging you-from the pictures that show a gap between this wall and the rafters, would you guess that it is thus no load?
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I can't even give you a guess. Well I can but I won't.
You really need someone on site to look at it.
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What is the species/span/size of the joists; are they flat roof rafters- compare for local snow load. Maybe the wall was added afterward for a room separator (partition) or added for a sagging roof... check and compare with/without the wall; (after ceiling joist tables, scroll down) http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...?bu2=undefined

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wow gary! you are the best. honestly, i dont even know what species they are. so the rafters are sistered together. i cant get a good exact length but i want to say the wall was added afterward. because if you take a look at the last picture, the room partition is only about 8ft wide. also this is the part of the house that the previous guy renovated (added on). nothing is original here.
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I can't even give you a guess. Well I can but I won't.
You really need someone on site to look at it.
thanks! we will get a carpenter to take a look. the one we already have out says its fine.
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merry christmas everyone! we decided to get some last minute 'shopping" done. start:

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