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federer 12-17-2012 07:57 PM

Just a wall!
 
Ok. first off i want to thank everyone for their previous input. please understand that i truly do appreciate all of you taking a look and putting in your 2 cents.

anyways we got an easier one for you guys today: so there is an interior wall dividing up 2 rooms. we want to take it down. we removed some of the paneling, and see that it's built with 2 frames. one for the wall, and then a header at the top. so just want to be sure it's safe before we knock it down.

http://i.imgur.com/8DN2Yl.jpg

federer 12-17-2012 08:00 PM

here is what's behind paneling
http://i.imgur.com/vbzoVl.jpg

federer 12-17-2012 08:03 PM

here is direct look down into subfloor?
http://i.imgur.com/5TLthl.jpg

joecaption 12-17-2012 08:06 PM

That's not a header, way to flimsy.
Step back and let us see where the doubled up studs are sitting at the top.
Could be there holding something up or just where they build two differant sections of wall and they nailed them together there.

federer 12-17-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1074874)
That's not a header, way to flimsy.
Step back and let us see where the doubled up studs are sitting at the top.
Could be there holding something up or just where they build two differant sections of wall and they nailed them together there.

right. i used header for lack of better word. it looks like they framed it just to make the height fit since the first framed wall was only 8ft tall.

federer 12-17-2012 08:14 PM

here you go joe! is this what you wanted?
http://i.imgur.com/5UCnJl.jpg

Duckweather 12-17-2012 08:15 PM

Hold your breath Joe, it looks like those 2x4's are in between two joists if you look in that crack. I don't even see any deck sheathing. Good old trick photography may be all that is holding it up.

federer 12-17-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duckweather (Post 1074884)
Hold your breath Joe, it looks like those 2x4's are in between two joists if you look in that crack. I don't even see any deck sheathing. Good old trick photography may be all that is holding it up.

thanks for taking a look. so you mean the joists is holding up the wall? yea i dont really see a subfloor it just seems to be a gap

federer 12-17-2012 08:24 PM

further back. sorry bad camera phone

http://i.imgur.com/PQKovl.jpg

federer 12-18-2012 03:28 PM

anyone else? does the double top plate on the paneled wall mean its load bearing?

federer 12-18-2012 04:29 PM

UPDATE: I went up and took a closer look. so above the 'header' there is a gap between the rafters and the wall itself. in fact the rafters are sitting on top of furring strips. so this leads me to believe the wall is not load bearing.
in this pic i am showing the furring strip itself, with a drop down ceiling wedged into the gap between strip and teh wall. teh rafters actually sit on top of these furring strips


http://i.imgur.com/eVK2el.jpg

federer 12-18-2012 04:31 PM

this is a step back. you can see the 2 rafters in this picture running perpendicular to teh strips. the gap is a good inch to the wall

http://i.imgur.com/tpVVu.jpg

GreenBoyz 12-18-2012 04:38 PM

I like the foam insulation. Did you do it yourself

federer 12-18-2012 06:41 PM

no we had someone spray it

federer 12-19-2012 12:21 AM

what i dont understand is, i am pretty sure the furring strips were nailed to the rafters after, when they decided to install the drop down ceiling. so my guess is the rafter just runs to the edge of the exterior wall, which i can tell is what its doing. they hover above the wall in question. does this make sense?


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