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Old 12-31-2009, 03:08 PM   #16
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In the first picture, I'm trying to show how big the gap is around my floor. I put pencil in and show that it is about 2" +. The last pic is where my oil lines come in the house.
I have to say I went through 4 things of caulking and had to go get more. Does it ever have a strong smell, I can smell it my my unit.

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Ok so that is a wood floor and some really old pink wall and baseboard molding I assume? Whomever installed the floor did not fit it up under the molding. Is it wood or a pergo type floor? Pergo is not connected to the sub-floor so if it is done improperly it has the potential to move. If it is wood I would pull of the baseboard and insulate below in the gap. Burn the old baseboard for heat :-) and consider putting in some thicker molding. It will help with the draft and have the added benefit of looking much neater.
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Use some backer rod behind the foam or caulking: http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...464&lpage=none
A lot cheaper.
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In the very first picture, that white covering on that pipe, could that be asbestos?

New Brunswick...Canada? or NJ?
Its some kind of cloth that is wrapped around the heat vents that go to the second floor. Asbestos isnt cloth is it?
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Ok so that is a wood floor and some really old pink wall and baseboard molding I assume? Whomever installed the floor did not fit it up under the molding. Is it wood or a pergo type floor? Pergo is not connected to the sub-floor so if it is done improperly it has the potential to move. If it is wood I would pull of the baseboard and insulate below in the gap. Burn the old baseboard for heat :-) and consider putting in some thicker molding. It will help with the draft and have the added benefit of looking much neater.
The reason the floor doesn't seem to meet it is that it is lower that the baseboard. Not out from the wall. The idea was to take off that small trim and put matching trim that's in the house. The trim is about 1" thick by 6 or 7". It would not have looked like that if the trim had been done. The trim was never done because it wasn't a priority on my list of things to do. I didn't want to cover that gap till I new what to do with it. I think the trim may have been up like that because there was carpet I ripped out that was gross. I don't think i did that bad of a job laying the floor. Better than the gross carpet and I think its better to leave it open till you can do them right instead of covering it and forgetting about it. Which I know me and that's something I could do very easily. I'm not a pro but Its lasted a long time and is still in good shape.
I discovered that any part of the house that they seemed to have renovated by removing the slats and plaster they Did a really poor job. Not just with the finish work but they didn't insolate behind it. I'm discover lots of problems with this place.
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Your first photo looks like the pipe may be wrapped with asbestos cloth although it can't be confirmed from here. If this is in an interior space where the fibers could get airborne, you might want to get it removed by a professional. Don't remove it yourself as you can cause more problems by spreading the fibers. If you have to work near it, try not to disturb it in any way.
I didn't realize asbestos could be cloth. Dam I hope not. How would I find out?
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That is odd. I can't believe they would have two different lines producing the stuff. Sounds like someone just didn't want to deal with problem. I've only lost one gun. It was my fault though. I put on a can that was four years past it's expiration date.
Oh I was looking at one of those guns at home hardware today I think. I'm an impulse buyer so decided to wait. Are they worth the money do you think? They ranged from $36 to $90. Are they hard to keep clean?
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Use some backer rod behind the foam or caulking: http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...464&lpage=none
A lot cheaper.
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That seems like a good idea, Thank you..
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Oh I was looking at one of those guns at home hardware today I think. I'm an impulse buyer so decided to wait. Are they worth the money do you think? They ranged from $36 to $90. Are they hard to keep clean?

You can buy more Great Stuff than you could possibly use for $90. I've only used about 5 cans on my house, and that include tearing rooms down to the studs and using foam on all the old siding boards from the inside.
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You can buy more Great Stuff than you could possibly use for $90. I've only used about 5 cans on my house, and that include tearing rooms down to the studs and using foam on all the old siding boards from the inside.
Yes I know, I have lots of use for it. I have a few old places. I'm just worried about the cleaning part. I'm thinking it may be easier and cleaner using a gun? The store person said lots of people get the cheaper gun and it works fine for them.
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Oh ok, sorry. I wasn't sure which one it should be in, so put it in both. I thought you were someone emailing me saying they didn't have time becasue they had to much to do. ( the links that were in the message. ) Guess it will take a bit for me to figure things out.
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Sure, asbestos was at one time woven into a cloth and around pipes was the #1 place you would have found it.

Now whether or not you have asbestos is anyone's guess without testing, but it looks like it to me and one other poster but it would more likely be asbestos if that pipe was carrying something warm or cold like a heating pipe or something...no reason for it otherwise.

But if that pipe (and I can't tell if it's going north-south or east-west) is asbestos, then common sense says you'd best take care of that as a potential heath problem as opposed to an energy conservation problem. I mean, money you can always replace, not so your health.

We have an old asbestos mine now discontinued up here in Quebec. So if you're in New Brunswick, Canada I'd have to say there was a good chance that is. But if in New Brunswick, NJ, maybe not. Either way, not a simple matter to contend with.
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Sure, asbestos was at one time woven into a cloth and around pipes was the #1 place you would have found it.

Now whether or not you have asbestos is anyone's guess without testing, but it looks like it to me and one other poster but it would more likely be asbestos if that pipe was carrying something warm or cold like a heating pipe or something...no reason for it otherwise.

But if that pipe (and I can't tell if it's going north-south or east-west) is asbestos, then common sense says you'd best take care of that as a potential heath problem as opposed to an energy conservation problem. I mean, money you can always replace, not so your health.

We have an old asbestos mine now discontinued up here in Quebec. So if you're in New Brunswick, Canada I'd have to say there was a good chance that is. But if in New Brunswick, NJ, maybe not. Either way, not a simple matter to contend with.

OMG, Does anyone know any kind of cost for having it removed?? Its ok isn't it unless its moved or touched? Or can there still be a problem because its wrapped around the heat pipe. I think I removed some if this about 2 yrs ago off a back vent. I've been looking at the last two vents that have it thinking I want to remove/fix it. I'm glad that I didn't do the rest of it. Is there any way to test if its made you sick/ or infected you? I'm in NB Canada.

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