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Old 02-23-2011, 08:50 AM   #16
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I'll see if I can help at all

Removing the knob - look on the shaft just behind the knob. There should be a little slot with a 3/8" tab poking thru or sometimes just a 1/16th inch hole.
This is the release button to let the knob slide off the shaft.

You have to depress that pin with a small screwdriver (as shown) or if it's the small hole type, get a paper clip and insert it into the hole to depress the pin.
Depress the pin at the same time you're pulling on the knob (this can be tricky)

Once the knob comes off, so will the cover plate and then you have access to the screws that hold the 2 halves of the body together.

Hope this helps...you shouldn't have to be bending metal



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Old 02-23-2011, 09:33 AM   #17
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from your pic the plate that you pride up is crovering up the slot or hole that you push to remove the knob, then the plate will come off and you can get to the screws. back off screws a little, turn that inside plate the screw will move to the larger holes(seen in pic) and the lock can be removed.
it may be to late to find the hole in knob.
So back out (or remove)screw in pic turn the plate around so you can get to the other screw & other side.
you can push the latch out with a flat head screwdriver.
You can put the new latch in like you have without a faceplate or look at Lock Installation #1 on the pdf
Or mortise a place as pic in Door Prep #C , put the new latch in hole screw in the 2 faceplate screws(pre drill small Bit Hole) take a razor knife cut around faceplate. remove and with a sharp chisle cut and remove wood.
re install make sure the latch brevel is facing the right way
put the rest together
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I'll see if I can help at all

Removing the knob - look on the shaft just behind the knob. There should be a little slot with a 3/8" tab poking thru or sometimes just a 1/16th inch hole.
This is the release button to let the knob slide off the shaft.

You have to depress that pin with a small screwdriver (as shown) or if it's the small hole type, get a paper clip and insert it into the hole to depress the pin.
Depress the pin at the same time you're pulling on the knob (this can be tricky)

Once the knob comes off, so will the cover plate and then you have access to the screws that hold the 2 halves of the body together.

Hope this helps...you shouldn't have to be bending metal

I'm surprised it took so long for someone to mention this method. Items like this do not outlast the door they are installed on so always have an easy way of removing
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:34 AM   #19
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I'm surprised it took so long for someone to mention this method.
you didn't ask before you mangled the thing

Did it work?
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:25 AM   #20
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Yup, I asked before I mangled. but I didn't get an answer. Mangling worked though. Not as fast I'm sure. All the doorknobs in the house are the same, so I will certainly have other chances to try that out.

The only problem now is getting the dang drive-in latch cover out (see "current status" post earlier). I will try more tonight after work.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:49 PM   #21
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arrrggghhhh... this is crazy... DaveP's excellent suggestion to re-use the old latch didn't work. They were not compatible.

So I tried to tap it out from inside the big hole and now the tap is wedged in there really stuck!! OMG. I thought the nail set was up against a piece of the latch. Doesn't look it now.



(The peeled paint was just some frustration venting last night)

Here's the side view where you can see I am starting to ruin the wood around the latch plate cover.

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so here's another idea. how does this sound? Can I drill out all around the latch cover plate to expose it so I can grab it with pliers? Like say I used a 5/32 bit or 3/16 and just make holes about 1/4" deep all the way around the cover plate. Even if it ends up wider than the new rectangle standard latch plate cover, I can probably patch it up. (will still have to get that nail set out first.)
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:57 PM   #23
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put a screwdriver in the hole where the spindle went. tap with a hammer, bingo!
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i don't follow you. Its hitting the screwdriver in the wrong direction. I need to tap from in back of it somehow to hammer it forward, not sideways.
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Put the screwdriver through the spindle hole and then hit the shaft of the screwdriver (not the end of the handle) toward the edge of the door. It will help if you can pull the nail set out first.

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Oh, I see. it doesn't budge.

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It will

Take a deep breath and do this...it's not that hard......
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Hallelujah!!!!!!

I found a fatter, stubbier screwdriver, maybe a nut driver, with a 3 1/4" shaft. That seemed to do the job.

It did split the wood a bit up the edge a few inches, but I can fix that.

Tomorrow night I will patch and do the mortise thing. Enough for tonight.

Thank you all!
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good for you......
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If anyone in the future is here for similar problem, here is additional info. I actually put the driver in back of the latch, not through the spindle hole. I think that may have provided a little better leverage. And there was a notch in the latch to accept the shape of the shaft perfectly. that may have been the key too.


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