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Old 10-07-2008, 04:01 PM   #1
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Constructing a very basic block building for a root cellar, and needed to know the best/easiest option for install of external door-is mortaring a metal jamb/metal door directly into rough opening a good option??

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For a root celler, that is one option since you can build it in. - An alternate would be to use PT bucks built into the opening and left there to support the header and then just install a prehung a wood door.

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thanks for the quick reply...since i am a newbie at this a couple more basic questions...first what are pressure treated (?) bucks and how are they used with the blocks and when you said my idea of metal jambs/door is good because it could be built in, how exactly is the metal jamb attached to the block-just mortared in place?? Is plumbing it a problem?? Are there special blocks to use with grooves for the jambs?? etc!
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oh boy, dick

take some 2x6's - cut 1 to fit in the door opening top - cut 2 others & place them on either side supporting the top plate.

door frame metal jambs're grouted into place.
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thanks for the how to about the pt bucks...but what's the deal with the "grouting" in the metal frame...is this mason speak for mortar??...any more details on what this grout is and how it is used to plumb and install the steel jambs would be much appreciated. This is the 24 guage steel door and 18 guage jamb frame I am thinking of...about $340 for 3.0x6.8
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For a hollow metal door frame - You set the door frame where you need it and it fits into the layout to eliminate or minimize cutting of block. Your door size will probably require a 40" opening/gap in the block wall, so you will need a half long block or two somewhere. - You can do the layout since your are doing the work.

Get the frame plumb and level (shim up if necessary). - Brace it to keep it aligned during construction.

Lay the block up to the frame and fill the hollow area between the block and the void in the hollow door frame. This will secure the frame to the masonry wall, especially if the frame has tabs projecting into the mortar.

Grout is usually the suggested material, but mortar will work fine for casual construction, but not for jails.
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thanks alot for the detailed "how to"...appreciate your patience with a first time mason (and awesome fish in your pix by the way!!) One more question-since I am building this into an excavated hillside and there will be lateral pressure on three sides, what kind of rebar or metal reinforcing, if any, should I add as I build up the 11 courses (the building is 10x10)

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