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Old 01-23-2012, 05:38 PM   #1
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Ok I am doing a demo on my existing flat porch roof that is part of my house so I can have a pool installed,

the other half of the flat roof sits over my living room in the back of my house its not being removed, all the exposed beams in the patio for the roof (demo side) are supported at the house by the tiebeam and opposite by a support beam that is held up by a metal bracket at the house on one end and two metal columns away from the house,

after removing the flat roof I need to hang one of the beams to keep a soffit of 16" away from the wall that will be in parallel with this beam, at one end the house supports this beam (2x8),

at the other I have nothing, was wondering if there were brackets that could be red headed to the tiebeam to hang this beam from, its about 12 feet in length but is only holding up the soffet/fascia portion of this part of the roof, I don't want to use a column.

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No pictures, no drawings, hard to see it from here.

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No pictures, no drawings, hard to see it from here.
x2....

But even with pictures....I'm thinking that you really want a post to hold the end of that beam vs some type of fastner.....it's not like your building closet shelves....
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It would be easy to have a metal shop build a bracket that would attach to the post holding that end of the tiebeam, rather than to the tie beam itself (if there is such post).

If you use a sturdy enough roof deck (like 2x6s), you could have the deck hold the beam, instead of the other way around. In this case, that beam would be decorative, to provide volume and a fascia to the overhang.
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Sorry have been pre occupied with a lift kit project on my truck. I do like the idea of attaching it to the 2 x8 but they run parallel, I think you mean attach them perpendicular to the parallel 2x8 to provide said eave for soffit and fascia, and yes purely decorative, other than holding up the overhanging plywood of 10" - 12" and the occassional live load of a grown man, this could do if ok with building department, problem with this is this is a flat roof with not access to secure from other side of parallel running 2x8.

An idea I had was to just take a 6x8 piece of wood have the one side sit on top of the tiebeam that is perpendicular to the paralled wall and run it down against the parallel wall and attach it several places with red heads to tiebeam, giving me at least a 6" overhang.


On the first suggestion I could build what would look like a ladder out of 2x8s and bolt it to tiebeam with redheads and the one side sitting on the tiebeam.
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Well since we have no pictures to go by not likly your going to get anything but guesses that are going to be wrong.
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Heres the pics you want


The beam on the wall is tied into another wood beam that sits on top of the tiebeam (just realized) on the wall that is going to need a soffit, no access from the attic b/c its a flat roof.



Here is where it exits off the bldg and is also resting on a 4x12, at the wall under the 4x12 is a steel L bracket that the 4x12 sits on for support.
If I don't need to do a eave/fascia soffit overhang than fine if the code is ok with it (is it required) rain is still gonna get on the doors regardless, and if I put a 4-6 inch overhang I am still gonna put a gutter system along it, aesthically it would be nice to have a overhang matching the house, but I could do with out.
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Well since we have no pictures to go by not likly your going to get anything but guesses that are going to be wrong.
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I thought I knew what you were talking about until I saw the pictures. Now I don't know what you are talking about. Where is the soffit, and which is the beam parallel to the one you want to add?
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I thought I knew what you were talking about until I saw the pictures. Now I don't know what you are talking about. Where is the soffit, and which is the beam parallel to the one you want to add?
The wood ceiling and beams you see in pic will all be removed except the one along the wall above the doors this is where I need to either make an overhang parallel to that wall to put fascia and soffit or just leave it a 4-6" in overhang along that Wall and not worry about creating a wide overhang, if you follow.
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The wood ceiling and beams you see in pic will all be removed except the one along the wall above the doors this is where I need to either make an overhang parallel to that wall to put fascia and soffit or just leave it a 4-6" in overhang along that Wall and not worry about creating a wide overhang, if you follow.
So the yellow beam is staying, and the dark brown joists are going away along with the roof deck.

Put in new dark brown joists that overhang the yellow beam as much as you want, and let your new parallel beam be supported by the new overhanging dark brown joists.
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okay so I can make the overhang as wide as I want.

On another question I need to add 2x4s to existing trusses to extend an eave across the back of the house in another area, I want to use 20d nails, I was going to nail the 2x4 extension to the existing truss 2 nails every 12 inches for a total of 6 feet, would this satisfy the code?
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okay so I can make the overhang as wide as I want.

On another question I need to add 2x4s to existing trusses to extend an eave across the back of the house in another area, I want to use 20d nails, I was going to nail the 2x4 extension to the existing truss 2 nails every 12 inches for a total of 6 feet, would this satisfy the code?
Do you mean nailing a couple of 2x4s flat on the faces of the last truss to extend the eave 1-1/2"?

Have you ever tried banging a 20d nail on wood that bounces back?
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Well I will be using a framing nailer and I could use the 16d if they are okay as well and yes in the pic were the joist are to be removed the trusses are going to be extended 16" to create an eave here


along the of wall above window there are nine joist that will be removed, the roof truss is next to each one.

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