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MacCan 03-27-2011 12:34 PM

Idea for new construction
 
I am a newest here.I want to start to built my own house.Don't know wether better to build the house myself or hire a constractors company.Could please someone give me advice that what way is better?I am from Vancouver BC Canada.
Thank you.

Jackofall1 03-27-2011 12:39 PM

Hello and welcome MacCan, to the best darn DIY'r site on the web.

Do you want it done in 6 mths or 6 years, the latter of course is doing it yourself.

Mark

jklingel 03-27-2011 12:57 PM

"6 years", is, of course, hyperbole. The reality is, you'll never finish it! What will happen is this: You'll get it done enough to move in, then realize that all that little crap like trim doesn't matter, so you'll start having a life again and forget about it. A day will come when you want to sell the place, so you'll finish it up then. (I am only half kidding about that, too. MANY diy houses never get done, like mine. Whether or not that is good or bad, you folks will have to decide.) All that said, if you are going to DIY, make sure you have a lot of prior experience, a good consultant, or at least read for many, many weeks. Places like buildingscience.com, greenbuildingadvisor.com, here, books, etc will keep you entertained for a long time. A house is a very complex machine, and a lot of myths still float around about them. "Fiberglass batts = insulation" and "You need a poly vapor barrier" are two common ones. Be sure to get educated, if not already, before you talk to any contractor. Having built houses for 20 years may or may not mean stink: Is he/she repeating the same errors, or is said contractor on top of the science of buildings? Good luck; common question, no easy answer.

Ron6519 03-27-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCan (Post 617945)
I am a newest here.I want to start to built my own house.Don't know wether better to build the house myself or hire a constractors company.Could please someone give me advice that what way is better?I am from Vancouver BC Canada.
Thank you.

My advice would be to give us a summary of your building experience to date.
Ron

havalife 03-27-2011 11:41 PM

I would say if you are asking DIY if you should "Do it Yourself" then you may want more advise on how to choose a contractor.
What was your last build?? Building a home is not something that you want to learn as you go.

vsheetz 03-27-2011 11:58 PM

The mechanics of construction are just one aspect of building a house. Obtaining a suitable to build lot for the desired home, utilities aquisition to the site, streets, taxes and fees, construction financing, and many others. A better place to start is one of several books available on the topic - try Amazon.com.

pyper 03-28-2011 06:40 AM

If you need to ask, then the answer is probably no.

But maybe you can do part of it. Some built in furniture maybe. Or you could have a garage with an unfinished upstairs and finish that yourself.

MacCan 03-28-2011 07:19 PM

Thank you everybody.

This is a task but probably you are right that first of all I should take a book. I want to note,that I have built a house. It was in different country though. However in Canada, particularly in Vancouver, to sell DIY building dwelling is a challenge because of the codes.This is an important too despite I obviously got out of proper topic,Sorry.
So there is nothing to do as to take a book and become a GC wether to build DIY or not.

Ron6519 03-28-2011 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCan (Post 618874)
Thank you everybody.

This is a task but probably you are right that first of all I should take a book. I want to note,that I have built a house. It was in different country though. However in Canada, particularly in Vancouver, to sell DIY building dwelling is a challenge because of the codes.This is an important too despite I obviously got out of proper topic,Sorry.
So there is nothing to do as to take a book and become a GC wether to build DIY or not.

Yes, that's the way to go, get a book. This way you'll know,"wether" you're qualified.
Ron

AndyGump 03-28-2011 11:50 PM

MacCan, if you have abilities, time and enough money you can build it yourself if you have a proper, well laid out plan. You could hire an Architect to create a set of plans that would spell out in great detail how to put a structure together.
A set of plans like that would undoubtedly be more expensive than a traditional set because more work would have to go into it's creation, but i seems to me that you would save money in the long run.
IF you have the abilities of course.
Andy.

pretzels 03-29-2011 09:16 PM

Advice from a guy in his mid 20s with no experience with building a house, but is about to complete his 2k sq. ft. diy house.

Its a pain in the you know what....stress stress stress.

Oh but wait, the stress part is on both sides of this coin.

Some people dont know how to do stuff, others have experience, and some of us just can figure everything out pretty fast and easy. You seem like someone who has experience, and can figure stuff out.

The internet exist, you do not need a professional. Before you start each project just plan, read, and ask questions. Professionals are just people who make money doing what they chose to do, and they tell everyone they need a professional, because they make money doing that. Experience is a joke of a reason to hire someone or trust someone.

I have come to the conclusion that:

1. Experience means nothing. If you hire a guy with 30 years experience, what does that even mean? It could be 30 years of experience of doing things right, or doing things wrong. (Plus hes probably stuck in 30 year old technology and ideals)

2. Nobody actually cares about the quality of their work, unless they are working on their own house.

3. There is no RIGHT way to do anything. No matter what anyone says here or out there. There are wrong ways though. You will know the wrong ones when you come across them.

4. Move out to a rural area, put your house in the middle of the land, and give everyone the finger.

5. If you are a perfectionist, you will be doing everyones job over again.

6. If you get a contractor you have someone to blame.

7. DIY for a neat custom home, hire a contractor if you want only 2 options for each thing that is done......tan or brown exterior.....travertine or carpet that sometimes looks grey and sometimes looks tan......and you will end up with ugly brass hardware, and tan/yellowish switch/outlet covers.

8. DIYer, will have trouble getting someone to do something for them. Cause everyone out there is doing stuff for contractors, so youll always be on the end of the list, and pushed around.

You just really need to figure out the house that you want before you figure out how you'll get it done.

2 DIY HINTS:

1. leave out the closets, cabinets, and vanities, and get everything from ikea. It looks better than anything built-in, is always extremely and easily changeable, is way cheaper, and way less time consuming.

2. (i wish i did this, and may do it in the future) do exposed electrical and water lines. if your a DIYer, then your probably going to be the FIXer in the future, and who wants to tear up a bunch of things that took you months and years to do just to fix or change a small thing like a water line or an electrical line. Then youll have to take months and years to fix it all back. if you ask me, hiding all this stuff behind the walls, is the stupidest thing i have ever heard of. (Of course i am talking about using protective conduit and so forth with this stuff) Plus, you can close in the structure and move in even faster cause you can do this crap later. (Drainage pipes probably good idea to keep in the walls)

They make money hiding stuff behind walls. It hides problems for long periods of time, so they can destroy more things. You have to tear more up, and you have to have a drywaller, a painter, a flooring person, a plumber, or an electrician, come out and do all this stuff over again.



sorry for the long reply....i got a lot on my mind.

AndyGump 03-29-2011 10:44 PM

I don't think there is anything in that last post that I can agree with.

Andy.

SeattleSurfaces 03-29-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyGump (Post 619746)
I don't think there is anything in that last post that I can agree with.

Andy.

I completely agree with everything in your post! :thumbsup:

Leah Frances 03-29-2011 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyGump
I don't think there is anything in that last post that I can agree with.

Andy.

Yeah, Andy. I think you're right. There's too much there to even bother unpacking all the mis-information and weird advice.

Ron6519 03-29-2011 10:53 PM

I stopped reading when I hit "Advice from a guy in his mid 20s with no experience".
I appreciated the heads up though.
Ron


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