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abstracted 03-28-2007 04:51 PM

How would you frame this? [pics]
 
Okay, Im about to start finishing off my basement so I have a few things to do before I can get started. There is a portion of my basement that has ducts and a support beam that are lower than the rest of the floor joists.
I've attached some pictures so you can see what I am talking about:
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7392/img5197qg7.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9788/img5198og4.jpg

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/5986/img5200mk3.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6033/img5201qh1.jpg
So I have two issues I guess. The first being that if I frame it off starting at the lowest point, that red beam, then it will cut off about half of the window there. Or else, I could across to from the red beam to the start of the window, then up and across just under the ducts. If I do that, then it leaves me very little room to place pot (inset) lights. I was hoping to be able to place them in the middle between the beam and the ducts, but I don't think I'll be able to with the window. I think they'll have to go almost directly behind that beam. Do you think that will be a problem?
What would you do here? Any advice? I thought about possibly just removing the window, but I'm not sure about code on that.

Brik 03-28-2007 04:53 PM

Drywall or drop ceiling?

abstracted 03-28-2007 05:01 PM

Sorry I should have mentioned, drywall.

AtlanticWBConst. 03-28-2007 07:30 PM

Hi,

Problem I see in the pics is that you have so much wiring and other lines running along the sides of the duct work where you would normally be framing to box-in your duct work.

You might want to consider a dropped ceiling (acoustic ceiling)...

AtlanticWBConst. 03-28-2007 07:32 PM

2nd thought too...

In one pic you have a plumbing drain line with a 'clean out' that you want accessible.
In other words, you wouldn't want to box something like that in with sheetrock...

yummy mummy 03-28-2007 08:41 PM

Where is beer geek when you need him!

(To inspect the spacing of receptacles).

Now where are you beer geek?

AtlanticWBConst. 03-28-2007 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yummy mummy (Post 38776)
Where is beer geek when you need him!

(To inspect the spacing of receptacles).

Now where are you beer geek?

You're a trouble maker.....

:wink:

MinConst 03-28-2007 09:28 PM

From the way I see it from the pics. You could attach the drywall to the side of the the main beam and then carry over a drop ceiling that should cover the duct work. Drop the ceiling just under the drain so you can access it from a ceiling panel. Box in the window with a 1x6 or 1x8 put a roof on it and you won't loose the window. You also gain allot of light this way. Make the window box 12" wider than the window and around 8" out from the wall.

AtlanticWBConst. 03-28-2007 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MinConst (Post 38787)
From the way I see it from the pics. You could attach the drywall to the side of the the main beam and then carry over a drop ceiling that should cover the duct work. Drop the ceiling just under the drain so you can access it from a ceiling panel. Box in the window with a 1x6 or 1x8 put a roof on it and you won't loose the window. You also gain allot of light this way. Make the window box 12" wider than the window and around 8" out from the wall.

... Agreed.... All good suggestions... Minconst...

yummy mummy 03-28-2007 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlanticWBConst. (Post 38778)
You're a trouble maker.....

:wink:


I know, I work hard at it.................:wink:

beer_geek 03-28-2007 10:11 PM

You're not very bright, are you?

You're giving me grief because I pointed out the code violations in your shoddy work. That's great. You really have a leg to stand on.

Perhaps you shouldn't post while drunk.

abstracted 03-28-2007 10:13 PM

Hey guys, thanks for the response.

Most of you are saying drop ceiling, but I'm pretty set on drywall right now. It's a lot cheaper, and it's not hard to patch it if I do have to take some apart for repairs down the road.

As far as the cleanout drain, you can see in one of the pictures that the pipe heads to the ground along the wall. At the bottom is where the actual clean out drain is, so that should be fine.

Here is a picture of what I think would be the best idea to do. Kinda of like a cross-section, if that makes sense.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2...titled1ej3.jpg

yummy mummy 03-28-2007 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer_geek (Post 38796)
You're not very bright, are you?

You're giving me grief because I pointed out the code violations in your shoddy work. That's great. You really have a leg to stand on.

Perhaps you shouldn't post while drunk.


Drunk" I'm not the one called "beer geek"!

You sound too tense beer geek, relax, take a deep breath.

beer_geek 03-28-2007 10:30 PM

Tense? Hardly. I'm not the one taking shots out of nowhere. This is twice that you've done it. Perhaps you should use some of your psychology training on yourself. Is it really gnawing at you that I didn't validate your work? Sorry that I tried to help you by pointing out your code violation. One would think that most people here would appreciate that sort of thing.

MinConst 03-28-2007 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abstracted (Post 38797)
Hey guys, thanks for the response.

Most of you are saying drop ceiling, but I'm pretty set on drywall right now. It's a lot cheaper, and it's not hard to patch it if I do have to take some apart for repairs down the road.
I don't know about cheaper if you take into consideration the time involved to fram it and rock it.

As far as the cleanout drain, you can see in one of the pictures that the pipe heads to the ground along the wall. At the bottom is where the actual clean out drain is, so that should be fine.
Unless your sinks plug up. Looks like a bathroom above that area.

Here is a picture of what I think would be the best idea to do. Kinda of like a cross-section, if that makes sense.

Kinda hard to tell from the pic. Your there and have the best eyes for it.


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