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Old 01-31-2010, 07:52 PM   #1
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I plan to build house, who know how to stand up 20' tall and 19' long framming wall? thanks.

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Fully framed & sheathed ? A crane

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who know some hand tool or small machine?
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I raised a ~24' long by 8' without sheathing using a winch
But I had a raising point 20' off the ground pulling the wall up
I also used 2x's as braces on the opposite side

With enough people & 16' long bracing you could raise it by hand
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Yuzzi,
Please don't take offense, but for someone who wants to be his own general contractor, it seems from your questions you know very little about the homebuilding process. I built custom homes for many years, and it is a process that is involved, and if you think you can fumble your way through it, you will end up with a mess. The difference between a good house and an average house is in the small details. It starts with a good plan and ends with the little details put together so the house turns out looking like it was done professionally. You would be wise to hire a good general contractor. In a lot of cases, he will save you money on the trades and save you a lot of grief in headaches.
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As stated, there is a specific process to standing a wall like that. Fully assembled with plywood and headers, its a very heavy wall. It involves as many as 6 + people (inexperienced= add more people), to avoid racking the wall, pre-attached plywood with strong-backs, tall step ladders, pre-attachment of end & middle - support "legs", possibly leaving the headers out and installing after (weight reduction), and specific toe-nailing of the bottom plate (as hinges and to secure it during raising).

As suggested, you are better off having it done professionally, as the chances of a rookie doing it wrong, and ending up with a pile of wood and injuries, or with nails pulling apart, wall out of square and plumb, warped, etc = are very high.
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I plan to build house, who know how to stand up 20' tall and 19' long framming wall? thanks.
20' tall, ummmm....I would second ScubaDave's suggestion of a crane. If I were you I would look into either building the wall in place, or hiring out for that particular section of the framing.
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Sounds like you are doing balloon framing,
Why not build platform framing instead ?
Much easier & the way I built my addition - 3 stories including the garage & walk up attic

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a Lull would be my suggestion. I have lifted a wall 80+ feet by 16' tall. That included 2 lulls, 4 jacks and about 10 guys all trained carpenters. Good luck bud.

Why not just section it up?
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Scuba,

I have seen walls that needed to be two stories tall in a typically platform framed house to accommodate the openings according to the designer.
The OP needs to consider getting a crane and experienced help.
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Build the wall in place. These guys are trying to scare you . It is not that hard. I built my first house with no experience at all. I had no idea what I was doing. Bought a few books. Framed it, did the electric, plumbed it, sheet rocked it, trimmed it, tiled it, sided it on and on. I still come here for advice because I need to learn a lot more. But if you have the desire and will, you can do it. Maybe not the best way the first time but how else are you going to learn. Most of us are not lucky enough to study under someone who knows everything. We have to stumble before we can walk.
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Build it in place. Do not have to stand up wall. Do not get hurt. With a little bit of common sense.
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They would be working on 3 lifts of scaffolding, possibly 4 depending on the site.
That might be difficult for a first timer as well.

The crane cost would likely be cheaper than buying or renting scaffolds.

A wall of that size is nothing to play with, imho, and I've done a few just like it.
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They would be working on 3 lifts of scaffolding, possibly 4 depending on the site.
That might be difficult for a first timer as well.

The crane cost would likely be cheaper than buying or renting scaffolds.

A wall of that size is nothing to play with, imho, and I've done a few just like it.
Could be done with no scaffolding. Depends on what you can build. Inside the structure. Come on did they rent scaffolds a 100 years ago. Oh yea they built them. I think the guy needs to think about it but by no means is it beyond even a first timer. Easy ? NO. But I do understand trying to do something safely on a Budget. For some people time is a lot cheaper than spending money ( for others time is very important). The funny thing is this guy probably is not even reading this now. We are just disagreeing (Which is kind of fun).

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