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Old 02-05-2011, 10:14 AM   #16
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I am not sure how I can be more clear. I don't own the property on the other side of the wall. I can't setup scaffolding. I can't setup ladders. It is not an option. My neighbor dictates the level of accss I have and it is very very limited. I am not sure if folks read the post or just the title. Guys, I appreciate the concern, but I need to work with the parameters I've got. This is not suburban NJ or Boise, Idaho.

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Old 02-05-2011, 10:25 AM   #17
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I am not sure how I can be more clear. I don't own the property on the other side of the wall. I can't setup scaffolding. I can't setup ladders. It is not an option. My neighbor dictates the level of accss I have and it is very very limited. I am not sure if folks read the post or just the title. Guys, I appreciate the concern, but I need to work with the parameters I've got. This is not suburban NJ or Boise, Idaho.
If you have no access to the other side of the wall, if/when you do get the wall up, how will you secure it to the wall you can't reach or have access too?
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Old 02-05-2011, 10:37 AM   #18
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did my post not make sense? if so,sorry. how are you siding if you cant work off that side?
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Stubits, It's you who are not reading the posts. Posts 12,13,14 and 15 are all rec's that keep to your property only.
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I'm having a hard time trying to figure where this wall goes. I think it goes above the sidewalk in front of the right most single window,above the blue bin? I assume the fence and the windows to the left are your neighbour? You said the left upper window and that is confusing me.
Build the wall standing up against the inside wall. Then slide it out to the edge in the standing position.
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There is no situation I can think of that you can't build a wall for the structure your working on, on the floor and tilt it up in place. And if this is an issue, build the wall in 2 pieces and install the continuous top plate after you put it in place.
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Ok, yes, some of the posts have addressed how to build the wall from my property alone, but many have insisted it cannot be done, that it must be sheathed from the other side. This is simply not an option. Neighbor will allow minimal access, but would not really allow me to spend a whole day on his property sheathing and siding the wall, with ladders and scaffolding.

The goal is to frame the wall, sheathe it, wrap it, and side it before raising/lowering/rotating/sliding it into place.

Ron- Building the wall on the deck and raising it would be great, but the wall is 10'Lx9'H while the deck is only 10'Lx5'W. Building it in two sections won't work so well because it won't allow me to side it.

JoeD- Sorry for the confusion. You're right about the window issue. The photo shows two houses, the neighbor on the left and mine on the right. Do you see the small brick half wall separating the two properties? The wall in question basically runs along the same plane, right above it. Is that more clear?

TPolk-I'd love to be able to do just as you suggest, but my concerns are:

1) The wall is going to be too heavy for me to move into place without it falling over.

2) When I have framed walls on the deck in the past, to raise them into place, I've run the sheathing long at the bottom to overlap the rim joist. How do you handle this?

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Ok, yes, some of the posts have addressed how to build the wall from my property alone, but many have insisted it cannot be done, that it must be sheathed from the other side. This is simply not an option. Neighbor will allow minimal access, but would not really allow me to spend a whole day on his property sheathing and siding the wall, with ladders and scaffolding.

The goal is to frame the wall, sheathe it, wrap it, and side it before raising/lowering/rotating/sliding it into place.

Ron- Building the wall on the deck and raising it would be great, but the wall is 10'Lx9'H while the deck is only 10'Lx5'W. Building it in two sections won't work so well because it won't allow me to side it.

JoeD- Sorry for the confusion. You're right about the window issue. The photo shows two houses, the neighbor on the left and mine on the right. Do you see the small brick half wall separating the two properties? The wall in question basically runs along the same plane, right above it. Is that more clear?

TPolk-I'd love to be able to do just as you suggest, but my concerns are:

1) The wall is going to be too heavy for me to move into place without it falling over.

2) When I have framed walls on the deck in the past, to raise them into place, I've run the sheathing long at the bottom to overlap the rim joist. How do you handle this?

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It's obvious that you have no other option but to frame/sheath/side.finish the wall on the ground and have a crane lift it into place. The your neighbor will let you fasten the wall into his side for a few minutes.

What other way do you see?
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Joe- TPolk's suggestion does not seem impossible, does it?

I was actually hoping for suggestions on how I might be able to build my own setup that would allow me to hoist the wall up, perhaps a floor or wall mount jib/crane/lift/hoist, or some setup with a pulley or pulleys. So as to avoid having to rent a crane for 4 hours, for a 30 minute job.
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Joe- TPolk's suggestion does not seem impossible, does it?

I was actually hoping for suggestions on how I might be able to build my own setup that would allow me to hoist the wall up, perhaps a floor or wall mount jib/crane/lift/hoist, or some setup with a pulley or pulleys. So as to avoid having to rent a crane for 4 hours, for a 30 minute job.
Don't understand what he suggested. What you're suggesting sounds very dangerous and doesn't make any sense since you can't use your neighbors property. Higher the crane and be done with it safe and sound. You still haven't answered the question. How are you going to support the wall and make it water tight on the neighbors side?
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Can you get a truck in the back yard. May you could make something like this.


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