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Old 08-11-2009, 06:19 AM   #1
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So i am in the process of finishing my basement. with my permits the order goes as follows: electrical, then then city come for framing, insulation, mechanical, plumbing (all these at once when the electrical is done). I am wondering how much i can do before i get the electrical rough-in done? Like can i put some insulation up in the stud cavities where the wire just crosses through (not secured to the side of the stud going up to the ceiling)?

i am just trying to see how much i can do before i need to get the inspector out.

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Around here you get the electrical first, then the framing. Plumbing inspection is done with the framing. Firestopping must be in place. And you can't have insulation in place until the framing inspection is approved. Then it's insulation, drywall and final inspections.

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See the enclosed pic, this is how my cities website is for finished basements.
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Give them a call. As stated, you cannot cover with insulation any wiring, plumbing, or HVAC until inspected. You have to realize, this is written by a city or county worker.
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Agreed - only your local authority can answer your question
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They're the one to ask and I'd recommend doing so. I can say with certainty that I cannot effectively do a rough-in inspection with insulation in the walls or joist spaces. When I arrive at a rough-in and it is insulated, they're removing most of the insulation, or pulling a lot of it down to provide visual access to certain places as needed. It doesn't start things off too well to have concealed what needs to be seen.
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Thought I would give a little follow-up.

My city does not have seperate inspectors for each thinkg (framing, plumbing, ....). so i dropped my plans off with the city (its in plan reviewal right now) i asked them how it works. they said to call when i have the vapor barrier up.

first the electrical roughin (state done)
secong the city comes in for all other rough-in
then final electrical, and final of the entire.
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baum your best to just wait until after electrical and framing inspections before you put up the insulation. For one it would be a pain to have to take most of it down for the inspector to perform his inspection. Secondly, it shows that even though you are a DIY, you have a clue about what you are doing, and that you want to make it right. It also gives the inspector a better first impression of you to make sure you get off on the right foot. The last thing you want is to get on the inspectors bad side. When you do your rough-ins don't forget to do fireblocking around all penetrations that lead between floors(usually plumbing/electrical lines). If you use spray foam make sure it is the fire rated one(orange color)
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My Town wants rough electric, then rough framing, then insulation, then finals

Seems like they are telling him rough electric 1st
Then he should have the insulation up w/vapor barrier for 2nd inspection
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Here is the order they are telling me and i will clairfy it when the plans are approved. This is what the desk clerk (in the inspectors office) said, but i will talk to an inspector when i go to pay for it all.

1. electrical rough-in

2. framing, mechanical (duct work), insulation, VB
All of this is done at one time, since the city doesnt have "specialized" inspectors for each thing.

3. electrical final

4. main final
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Seems to me that the electrical rough should/could be combined with the other rough-in and that the electrical final should/could be combined with the main final. Wierd.
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In my area electrical is done by the state, and all else is the city (county)
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In my area electrical is done by the state, and all else is the city (county)
Ah, understood.
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At the start of a major project, I have asked to have a inspector come by and discussion requirements, what has to be inspected, what comes first, etc. They have been very helpful and understanding of the DIY'er owner-builder. Then at each inspection I make sure I understand what's next, and discuss expectations.
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so i picked up my permits today. The inspector said to have it all done except for the drywall. then he will come back after its all done after the electrical final

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