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Old 05-13-2014, 10:28 PM   #31
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It would not be that hard Hammerlane for the OP to run black flex pipe into the ground and out the side below the slope. To help funnel that water out of there.
Yeah controlling the water further away from the home before releasing it into the yard would be better. But in my opinion the best way would of been to tie into the storm system. From the photo I bet there is a swale between the posters yard and the neighbors and dumping that water there would mush up the ground there.

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Yeah controlling the water further away from the home before releasing it into the yard would be better. But in my opinion the best way would of been to tie into the storm system.
A lot of places you are no longer allowed to do so. You can only allow it to go into either a Dry Well, or let it run into the yard.

It gets even better when there are areas that you are not allowed to let roof runoff collect in your yard if there is a heavy rain.
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Now it makes a little more sense, it's under the porch above.

I would ask the builder if the lumber and OSB can be removed, as it should have only been used as a temporary form. No reason to keep it in place if it's only going to rot away anyways. That stoop "should" have been built to be self supporting once cured.

I see these problems on a regular basis. Most concrete guys, or even GC's, don't take the time, effort, or money to do them correctly. They feel like it's just a normal concrete slab, and believe that concrete is "waterproof" in itself, which certainly isn't the case. The proper way to construct these is to treat as a roof, which is what it truly is. It should have an adaquate membrane under the concrete, typically 60 mil rubber used on flat roofs, flashed into the walls of the house. The stoop should be waterproof BEFORE any concrete is poured, and the concrete is used to protect the membrane........
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My 2 cents is 1.) Pull back the landscaping and roll on some black waterproofing, and 2.) use some sealer to brush the mortar joints and inside corners of the brick.
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"Also, the wood is turning black because it is wet - it's not mold."

Any wood that has turned that black has become food for another lifeform.
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So what would be the best way to patch/seal the crack in the concrete that runs the entire width of the back edge of the bottom step (see 2nd photo in my post #23)?

Also here:

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So the builder is saying he suspects the problem here? Typical builder solution to a water problem is to caulk it without verifying that is the issue.
I am not a builder but caulk is what I would do if I were you.
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Caulk is not going to seal the problem. Again, the problem is not from that point. It is to the left under the window.
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You can caulk that joint now with Vulkem or something along those lines.

Look at the post from Jomama.

If it isn't water coming from above to rot that wood (which you will temporarily fix), then it will be condensation forming there.

So you need to insulate it as well.

And somehow your builder needs to start building these in a sustainable way.
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Wait, the slab sits on top of the wood floor joists? That makes no sense.

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What should it be sitting on?
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The way that I have seen a recessed entry done is that as the brickwork is coming up, some brick (which will be below the slab) are set in a bit, in order to allow a piece of plywood to be supported.

The slab is then poured on top of this piece of plywood.

This system is wrong, because as the plywood deteriorates, the only thing holding the slab up is the bond along the brick veneer and on top of the brick on the outside.

This bond is usually sufficient.

However, the best way to do this would seem to be to set up a form inside the bottom of the stoop to support the floor pour, then go below and strip it later.

Next, the bottom of the stoop could be insulated.
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Where the landscaping meets the wall, is there any protection that would handle an excessive amount of water and moisture.
Is there a sprinkler system, that would add insult.?
In the other areas mentioned a simple caulking would help but, I doubt that's your problem.
You may also have a problem to the right of the side walk.?
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I think my builder may be correct. I used the hose to wash down the front porch and step today. Then, I walked down to the storm shelter to find this:


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Your builder will have that problem in every home he has done with that detail. He may as well have callers press *8 if they have a leak in their basement under the entry, then have a recording explain what the problem is.

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