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Old 07-29-2014, 04:35 PM   #1
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How can I (properly) build a simple rectangular deck?


We had a guy build a second half to our deck a few years ago and its completely falling apart. I want to rip it apart and rebuild, but I dont know much about the necessary spacing and depth and width of the wood and stuff. The deck is 10x20 and it's probably about 6 feet above our backyard. Are there any plans you guys can give me or just general advice?

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DCA6

Check out this link.


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Sweet mother of glob that is quite technical haha. Thanks for the link!
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Old 07-29-2014, 05:47 PM   #4
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Post a picture of what they did.
Let me guess.
4 X 4's for post.
2 x 6's for joist.
No double rim joist.
Rim joist just attached to the outside of the post.
Am I close?
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Kwikfishron reminded me that there is an update to the DCA6 in the link I provided and HERE it is.

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Post a picture of what they did.
Let me guess.
4 X 4's for post.
2 x 6's for joist.
No double rim joist.
Rim joist just attached to the outside of the post.
Am I close?
That I will definitely do. If I knew a bit more about this, I could give a more scathing review of his idiocy. I think he actually used 6x6's for the posts, and 2x8s for the joists. The one rim thats connected to the other deck is just one joist, but I imagine thats ok because the other side has a double rim...seems like it would be a triple sistered joist. The other rim is kinda sorta a double rim. It appears to be two joists separated by a couple inches. What I think is going on is that one is an actual joist, and the other is attached to the outside of the post and acts like a skirt.

The hugest problem is that he spaced the joists apart 24 inches give or take a couple inches (it's not exact...could be 23" then 26", but most are 24" or 25"). The floorboards are 1" 20 foot long boards...and I am pretty sure they're not treated. I think he might have bought interior construction lumber. My uncle actually fell through one of the floorboards, it was awful. Another one shrunk and then bowed out at the ends. They all swelled from water exposure. The edges horrible on all of them. All the nails were rusted.

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Never once built a deck with nails, never once built a deck 24" O/C.
Still in the dark, what's the deck made of?
Still no picture.
Cedar, IPE, ECT.?
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24" o.c. WOW! I typically specify joists at 12" o.c. as it creates less bounce with composite decking materials.
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bad case of "fly by night" dude. even with zero experience.. if you have patience to learn from people on this thread and do some reading of deck books, videos and magazine, you'll have enough knowledge to build a deck WORLDS better than what you have.

we'll need pictures of existing and a general idea of what you want.
sounds like all the decking and joists and possibly the beams need to go. maybe could be reused if we knew the material, dimensions and your opinion if the wood is in good shape. then some pictures of your existing support beams and pier. is deck on poured concrete pier? footer blocks? resting on soil !!?? we want to know if you can at least use the existing support structure.

i'm going through exactly this right now! existing concrete piers were terrible.. had to rebuild. i should start my own thread, could be interesting for others. i just finished running continuous waterproof membrane across top of double 2x10 beam. progress!
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Post a picture of what they did.
Let me guess.
4 X 4's for post.
2 x 6's for joist.
No double rim joist.
Rim joist just attached to the outside of the post.
Am I close?
DCA does not prescribe a double Rim Joist.
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Here is an album of images of my mostly torn apart deck.
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That is nasty.Are you sure it's only "a few years old"? Still a Ch$t job.
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This reminds me of the deck that came with my house. Did not take much effort to demo. Much of the lumber was able to be reused, however. 2/3 of it was only 6 years old, no proper footings, just angle brackets onto the thin, 80 year old concrete slab that was there originally.
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I was planning on just fixing it, but now I think i have to almost totally take it apart. I wonder what the cheapest way would be to fix this. I'm thinking just doubling up the joists to make them 12" OC, fixing the footers, and adding new, correct floorboards. I didnt set aside money for a project of this magnitude!

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Can anyone explain table 3A to me? I dont understand the deck beam table. I want to use 2x10 joists spaced 16" apart. As I understand it, I'll need to sister 2 2x?? together. The deck is 20 feet long (and 10 feet wide). Thanks a ton.

P.S. I took off the entire top of the deck. The joists are probably not going to be reusable. The posts supporting the front are 6x6, but the posts touching the house (?) are 4x4s. I'm 99% sure the ledger board isn't correctly installed. I could post more pictures if it would help you help me haha.


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