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havalife 09-21-2011 11:29 PM

How to bid a job
I am new here and would like to see this site go far. My experience is only 30 years building for owners of residential and commercial homes and buildings. When I saw the post of how much $ per foot for a kitchen remodel and the responses I was shocked. We all know that a price per foot can not be given without a spec list. If the HGTV, DIY Network, and want to be designer/contractor people would like to bid the kitchen I am bidding on please give a quantified bid. I am tired of having to explain to the Homeowner that I include finishing the project along with licence, insurance, and bonds that support my work.

stadry 09-22-2011 06:59 AM

1 thing's certain - w/o you, dick, jomama, moderators, administrators & all others, the site'll crash :laughing: its all of the contributors who make it work,,, usually, cost threads get the ' all areas are different ' answer :thumbup:

dtcrneck 09-23-2011 09:38 PM

I am not a contractor but I agree with you. My husband is a multi trade commercial carpenter and a construction engineering technologist. With the economy all of a sudden the guys that were holding houses now think that they are capable of commercial projects. He has lost numerous tenders because some idiot has come in below cost to build. Eventually it will catch up with these guys.

Aside from functioning as a cheif estimator, he will often take on building projects, because he likes building. Yes, he costs more per hour and his estimates are higher, and he is upfront about the hidden dangers behind walls being additional, but when he builds something it is done right, is to Code, has any permits pulled that may be needed and people never call to say something isn't right. But he carries WCB, insurance, buisness number, Ltd company. His trades and education cost money to get. The guy down the road that will work for $20/hr cash may be cheaper to begin with but it will cost you more I'm the end.

Now, I shall get off my soapbox. Just fed up with the same stuff you are.

dtcrneck 09-23-2011 09:40 PM

Building homes not holding...damn iPhone auto correct

gregzoll 09-23-2011 10:35 PM

Figure out what your time is worth. That means, that for every time a person calls you, emails you, stops you on the street, how much is that minute or half hour going to be worth, to pay your bills. When I do computer work, I bill in the half hour, but round up to the hour. That means, if it took me 20 minutes to fix your computer, I am billing for the hour, due to the amount of time it took for everything said and done. Now on the other hand, when I bill for computer network cabling, I am billing you for $75 for each run, no matter how long it may take to complete, because I know in the long run, I am in a win win situation.

You just need to get out and find out what others are charging, and what they are bringing to the table. Do others have degrees in the art field, architectural experience, family experience, that it is in their blood, that they grew up in the trades, or just decided one morning, that it was not worth going into the office for $16 to $18 an hour, so decided that they would start designing kitchens.

ddawg16 09-24-2011 08:34 AM

I feel sorry for the guys trying to make it out there......I do construction for only me.....what I have learned is that it costs twice as much and takes 3 times longer than I expect....(too many beer breaks and playing with the kids).

I have also realized that it takes a lot of time just rounding up material....every trip to HD is an hour or more shot.....I'm lucky in that I can send my wife and know she will get the right thing....

I understand why people here don't want to talk about price.....yea, we can give everything a 'ball park' price/ft...but it's ball park and most likely on the low side.....

Marbledust 09-24-2011 08:48 AM

Just take a look.
9 out of 10 contractors in california are no longer active!

but the work is still getting done(thanks to the south americans)

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