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Old 05-20-2012, 04:38 PM   #1
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I am in the process of having a siding job done and the one of the guys seems to be doing some pretty crappy work. The other 4 are doing good work. A lot of the siding seems cut unevenly. A really bad looking hole was cut where the cables from the central air unit enter the house, and a few other odds and ends. I was wondering if this is common and I am overreacting, or if I should ask them to fix these things tomorrow.



Should this hole be more neat? It's all jagged and doesn't look very nice.



This piece of siding wasn't cut evenly, there are a few other pieces like this.



The top piece of edging was not cut nicely and leaves a small, but noticeable gap between the two pieces.

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Old 05-20-2012, 05:45 PM   #2
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I am in the process of having a siding job done and the one of the guys seems to be doing some pretty crappy work. The other 4 are doing good work. A lot of the siding seems cut unevenly. A really bad looking hole was cut where the cables from the central air unit enter the house, and a few other odds and ends. I was wondering if this is common and I am overreacting, or if I should ask them to fix these things tomorrow.



Should this hole be more neat? It's all jagged and doesn't look very nice.



This piece of siding wasn't cut evenly, there are a few other pieces like this.



The top piece of edging was not cut nicely and leaves a small, but noticeable gap between the two pieces.

There's no excuse for sloppy work like that,talk to the owner of the company doing the work, don't pay until it's done to your satisfaction.

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the ac line is fine,it should not be tight and just needs to be sealed which will cover the cut,the corner is ok too

the only problem i see is the field cut on the over lapping panel,ask your installer to change it
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the ac line is fine,it should not be tight and just needs to be sealed which will cover the cut,the corner is ok too

the only problem i see is the field cut on the over lapping panel,ask your installer to change it
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I don't think the corner is ok. The other corners are cut evenly and don't have gaps. That is eye level on our deck and visible to everyone. Where the electrical meter is, there is a nice cut and it does not look like trash like the cut around the other wires. I would expect it to be a nice square cut, or at least sealed so I don't notice that. Another big concern I have is, one of the guys hit the freon line and they had an HVAC guy come out to repair it. He had to cut a hole in the house to get to the line to solder it. The guy just placed the siding over the hole without repairing it or even running wrap over it. That hole goes right to a wall in my house.



Also, I noticed a couple large holes in the wood where they haven't put siding up yet. Two are in the chimney area and one is near it and goes into the attic... will the wrap they place over it be sufficient or should I go out and buy something to place over it before they place siding over those areas?
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I would have used one of these instead of cutting the siding like that.

http://www.menards.com/main/building...083-c-5840.htm
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here is the facts you got some nice photos to back yourself up with it is not neat work. A simple hole drilled and then the bottom cut so to fit the wires in. not hack it with tin snips. it is your money your home don't pay till the job is done right!
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The cut buy the A/C lines no big deal it should be just covered up with sealant. OH Joe the thing you mentioned is not used where A/C lines go thought the wall usually a hole is cut and sealant used.
The other work is questionable. They need to re cut that one piece. As far as the corner goes now that's a problem to fix.
Make sure your A/C was repaired properly.
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installer shouldn't be just siding over any holes in the sheathing

you can go around any home with your camera set to macro and things won't look so nice

installing a split block mini is a good idea as long as it's flashed in right

just drilling a hole and cutting up from the bottom leaves the bottom cut unprotected

the corner while maybe not perfect from 6'' away is atleast lapped in the proper direction
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the more i look at your pics the more concerned i get,there are some holes you can make that don't need much precision,like the a.c line

others like the corner and the panel end need more and if it is at eye level as compared to 10' up it should be ''flawless'',sometimes when there is an upper level deck i will put the short piece of corner at the bottom

and actually the panel end never should have been cut


and just siding over holes without prepping them would make me recommend you stop the job,that is totally unacceptable

this kind of thing happens when a big crew attacks every wall at the same time,it can be done but you need to have a strong crew leader
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Thanks for the tips, comments, and suggestions. I discussed my concerns with the owner and the crew leader and they finished the job and did a pretty good job. The hole was patches, as well as a few additional holes up by the chimney. The hole by the AC was filled with silicone and I wrapped the ugly wires with some plastic cable tubing. I am not 100% satisfied with the end result, as a few things were not done that were promised or that I assumed would be done.

1. The shutters were not ordered, I think he tried to pull a fast on on us and ordered them after the fact, when we said something about them not being put up when they said they were finished. He said he will put them up when they come in.

2. The chimney flashing was not replaced and it does not look nice. I think they bent up the sides to install the siding and then hammered it back down. I will attach pictures of it at the end of this message. I filed an insurance claim and got a new roof and siding and the chimney flashing was on the insurance claim for as needing to be replaced. The owner expects full payment without replacing it (he agreed to take the insurance claim amount + $570.00 for the premium color we picked out) and said he would fix everything on it. He didn't write everything up in the contract, but he didn't write up a few things that we agreed on that he did. I assumed it would be replaced when the roof was replaced. I talked to him about it and he told me that it's not his responsibility and I should talk to a chimney specialist. I am not sure what I should do. How much would it cost to replace?

3. He said he would paint the crown molding for us that was over our door. We gave it to him and he never brought it back. When we asked him about it he said he threw it away because it was a foam piece... I think it was wood, but I am not 100%. Either way, I did not give him permission to discard it and that upset me. I bought a new piece at Lowes for $25, but I need to cut it, paint it and then nail it up there.

4. He did throw in downspouts and soffits, which weren't on the claim for, so he's not a total sleeze ball, but there are some things that I expected to be done that weren't.

The siding looks great, as well as the house. I am 90% pleased with the job overall. I do want the shutters installed and flashing replaced. I've paid out $12,000 and still owe him another $4300. Should I hire someone else to do the flashing and short his final check by the $400-$600 it will cost to replace it or should I call my insurance company and let them deal with him?

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If it was not in writing then there's not much you can do if you only "talked about it".
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If it was not in writing then there's not much you can do if you only "talked about it".
Regardless, he agreed to do everything that the insurance adjuster said needed done. I never agreed to not have the flashing replaced. The contract says "This agreement is pursuant to the insurance company's award for damages and is null and void if claim is denied." The insurance company paid $250 to have it replaced, I would assume that would constitute insurance fraud. And looking at my claim for, the downspouts were included, he didn't throw them in.

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