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Old 11-17-2010, 08:50 AM   #16
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Harvey vinyl + Vinyl trim.....Do I caulk between them?


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well that's assuming the water has a safe place to drain away,like i said before water can stay trapped between 2 pcs of vinyl for a very long time and maybe never cause a structural problem,but eventually mold will start forming
I agree.

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i also didn't mean to sound snidebut gravity is just 1 process that drives water,to say water will not wick sideways is wrong
Oh, I didn't mean to say that the properties of water suddenly stop. The wicking action (or perhaps some kind of "flat" capillary action since the vinyl doesn't absorb anything?) is halted in their opinion because of the tape sandwiched between the nailing flange and the underside of the trim and that the bulk will flow downward. That's why Harvey (and Anderson) field services claim that it's merely aesthetic.

Long and short of it: I'm not buying it.
  1. Even *if* it were purely aesthetic, I want that look.
  2. I've been far too burned by the word "should".
  3. The guys at Harvey didn't agree with each other on this.
  4. The guys at Harvey saying it was aesthetic did admit that there will be some pushing out (and over time potentially blistering/cracking) but I'm not convinced of this *either*. I'm installing it in cool/cold fall weather, which is in the middle of the expansion range, so hopefully the expansion from here in the summer and contraction from here in the winter will be less obvious.
Add to this now that Harvey says that the 30 year silicone DAP product is fine. (No longer claiming an elastomeric or polyurethane product needed).

{dazed and confused} LOL.

So it'll be caulked. With Silicone. Jeepers.

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Old 11-17-2010, 09:02 PM   #17
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The most important part of caulking, that will "make it or break it" literally is what Moopey said in post 9 about hourglass shape and backer rod.

Some back-up for him: pp.30: http://books.google.com/books?id=fDs...age&q=&f=false

pp. 35: http://books.google.com/books?id=XHA...0break&f=false

http://www.coastalcontractor.net/article/117.html

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I know it is an old post but i was wondering how did it work for you. I am planning to get Harvey Vinyl window installed with PVC trim and wanted to see how it worked in terms of cauking.
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Old 10-12-2013, 07:36 AM   #19
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you very easily caulk between the trim and the window without it looking bad.. simply set the bead at the nailing flange.. this way the caulking wont ooze out when the trim is set into it yet its still sealed

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