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Old 06-10-2011, 10:08 PM   #1
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I am researching Hardiplank for re-siding my home. We live in the Yukon Territory, -40 to 100 deg F swings in year are not unusual. I would like to add a Energy Shield (polyiso sheathing by Atlas) layer around my house on top the studs for a thermal break. Then I would hang HardiPlank siding. However the Heavy HardiPlank would now be a minimum of 1/2" inch from the studs holding its weight. Is this going to be a problem over time with the nails bending and the siding "sluffing"; off the house? I may want to put 1 or even 2" Energy Shield up, at what point do I have to install strapping? Yukon Dave keajohnson@gmail.com

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I would think you would need strapping with 1-2" foam insulation. Are you going to use a 3" or 4" siding nail?

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If the Hardiplank is not too heavy and I don't have to move/replace the window casings with the addition of 1/2" of Energy Shield (ES), I was evening willing to screw (~2" screw) the Hardiplank through the 1/2" of ES foam into the 2X4" stud. I'm not sure which is stronger siding nail or the screw. Probably the siding Nail.
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Going over 1/2'' is no problem at all, Hardie has a tech bulletin out on the subject.
Northclad has a rail system that you can attach the Hardie to and install up to 4'' rigid behind it. http://northclad.com/products/knight/
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Found the tech bulletin:
http://www.jameshardie.com/pdf/USTB_...s-Hardie-2.pdf
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Rock16,
Thanks for the bulletin, I'm good till 1" without extra mounting hardware.

I have a lower level pony wall that is partially below grade. The pony wall consists of ~42" high concrete (~6" thick) with conventional 2x4 framing on top. I will be excevating and adding HS-40 high compression foahm below grade. I am unsure how to transition to the conrete from the 2x4" wall.

Could you point me to a bulletin on fixing hardi-plank to concrete?

Thanks for the help,
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I think the seismic zone you live in requires full-sheathed walls under the foam board. You want more than 1" foam to bring the dew-point temp warmer so the water vapor won't condense on the inside of your sheathing, especially OSB (if used); http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/...foam-sheathing

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http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/...wall-sheathing

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Rock16,
Thanks for the bulletin, I'm good till 1" without extra mounting hardware.

I have a lower level pony wall that is partially below grade. The pony wall consists of ~42" high concrete (~6" thick) with conventional 2x4 framing on top. I will be excevating and adding HS-40 high compression foahm below grade. I am unsure how to transition to the conrete from the 2x4" wall.

Could you point me to a bulletin on fixing hardi-plank to concrete?

Thanks for the help,
David J
The only way I know to attach Hardie over concrete is to strap with PT2x4 and attach to the 2x4. Or use a system like the northclad brackets.
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most people know that jemstone, that is marked on the packaging

as for foam, 1/2" foam is pretty much redundant, it doesnt provide enough insulation to be worth while. 1" is your best option, 1 1/2" is doable. with 2" foam your looking at a whole other can of worms..

defiintely strap over the foam nailing it to the studs

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