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Old 09-02-2009, 12:45 PM   #31
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I think that looks good
He posted a design on 7/31 that is similar

With 4 kids make sure the railings meet code for your area
My son is 3 & he can't touch bottom yet in our inground pool (all fenced in)
Next year I think he will be tall enough for the shallow end

I pour a concerete pier - around here we have to go 42-48" deep
On top of the concrete pier is a metal bracket that nails to the 4x4 post
Putting the post in the concrete will rot out the post faster
All depends upon the climate & soil as to how fast
I've seen posts that were rotting in as little as 6-7 years

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Old 09-02-2009, 12:52 PM   #32
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By the way.......... This is an example of what you might want to be mounting your posts on. Most of this is underground. The post fastens to the metal bracket on top... totally clear of the ground.
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Old 09-04-2009, 08:49 AM   #33
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I will not need a bunch of concrete that is in the ground and then place the simspons connectors on top. No need for that around here. It does get humid throughout the summer but almost every deck thats built, even in the very pricey neighborhoods arte built with the 4x4 in the ground.

I would like to say that all the desisns are amazing and thank you very much for giving me a better vision of what I had in mind. You just made everything a whole lot better to envision. I am about to start the framwork first and because I have to work with 2x4's on the ground, I am not to worried about flexing or having to use 2x6 farther from the deck. Besides I am tired of digging anyway, unless it is for leveling. Coffee's almost gone so Its time to get to work. I will post some clear pictures of my progress later. New digital camera works great.
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Willie T,

Those are some great designs. I love your ideas.
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So far I have used 2x4's and framed everything. Put 1ft 2" braces in between all the joists and sunk 4x4 posts and concreted them in. 18x12= 216 sq ft. Plenty of room. Will be adding to what already is there with additional plate forms like Willy T showed...in time. I'm far from rich but I will be getting a pool next year so, I am looking forward to that. Nothing says a little at a time can't be done. I will have my deck done this weekend. Once I get this darn computer to work on the pictures I will upload some. If you can see the picture below, than try too. If not, sorry I will try later on.
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Are 2x4's acceptable for a deck floor...I have always seen 2x6's or 2x8's used?

Also...what software are you guys using to design those decks, its awesome!
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Are 2x4's acceptable for a deck floor...I have always seen 2x6's or 2x8's used?
He's building this partially on top of a cement patio
2x4's will not span that great of a distance, so usually not used

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When you zoom his picture up, it appears he is using 2x8's.
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Also...what software are you guys using to design those decks, its awesome!
Mine is SketchUp.
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When you zoom his picture up, it appears he is using 2x8's.
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So far I have used 2x4's and framed everything. Put 1ft 2" braces in between all the joists and sunk 4x4 posts and concreted them in
Looks can be deceiving..........
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This is the before and after. Big difference. Who said that a 2x4 wouldn't hold up. Ground level and it has no where to go. No creeking, plenty of stability and looks great with the furniture. I'm very happy with the way it turned out. Let me know what you think too.

Yes, I waas short one freaking board. Future project...put in the last board!

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Looks good, a deck adds a lot of useable space outside
We enlarged our pool area patio last year & it made a huge improvement
I moved our fence to include a 24x40 area - tons of space now
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looks very nice, great work.

So is that cedar or did you use a different species of wood?

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Nice. Now get you some railings up before someone shoves back in one of those chairs, busting their head on one of those rocks in the ground.
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Mine is a mechanical design software called solidworks.

i dont think by code he actually needs a railing. doesnt it need to be like 30" aboue grade for a railing? (i may be wrong)

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