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Old 03-25-2010, 06:58 PM   #16
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GRRR

Any tips on the wood not splitting? Drove two nails into a 9.5" piece, about a couple inches from the ends, and the wood split in half when I finished driving the 2nd nail >

One more thing on toenailing: when toenailing a corner stud, do I nail from the outside, going in? Also, is it a 45 degree angle? How many nails per stud, and do the directions need to oppose?

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Old 03-25-2010, 11:49 PM   #17
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Ugh, disaster.

I didn't account for the unleveled floor when I measured the studs. So now I have one stud that is actually making contact with the bottom plate, but I had to hammer the entire wall into place to make that fit. All of the other studs are off from 1/4" to 1/2". And now one of the ceiling joists is sitting on this wall, so now it's load bearing (but not necessary, so it's not biggy). Hopefully nothing screws up...although I do like the idea of a 38" OC 2x6 spanning 15ft, being shortened to a 12 ft span .

What should I do regarding the gaps below the rest of the studs? Would shims be OK for this?
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Old 03-26-2010, 07:52 AM   #18
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Shims should do nicely--Mike--

By the way---That's not a disaster---We call that a design modification--
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:50 PM   #19
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I just reread the posting---you could have used 12 penny nails--Less splitting,plenty of strength.

That was part of your frustration---that and to-days crumby wood--believe it or not I use a lot of finishing nails to hold smaller blocking and other non-structural bits.
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Old 03-28-2010, 12:27 AM   #20
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I should use smaller nails? Crap >

The shims were splitting so there are no shims. Just gaps wiht toenails (still penetrating the bottom plates though).

I "tacked" the top plate to the two ceiling joists. I'm better off nailing into brick: already bent two of these 16d nails trying to pound into 103 year old wood.
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Hello again---I believe I suggested screwing the new wall into the old----

Now you found out why----The old wood gets hard as rock--often the antique houses were built with wood cut from local trees!

I helped a friend --his kitchen framing was white oak---100 years old--we had to drill pilot holes for the screws---sure added a lot of time to hanging the cabinets.

We needed to use the silvery/gold screws for the drywall--the hardened black ones just snapped off.


Aren't old houses fun?---You must be inventive---willing to experiment to find out what will work when marrying the old to the new---

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Old 03-30-2010, 01:30 PM   #22
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Yes quite fun. Trying to use 3" screws for this. Even with screws...I swear this is really steel (no, it can't be, steel is easier to work with than this stuff), with an old wood stain on it. My arm is tired as hell. The pilot hole did no justice , and the screws never got full penetration. Drill cries for help as it simply bounces off the screw head >

Here's a crummy pic. The lens is distorting the picture, since light coming in from the window was screwing with the focus. The studs aren't really bowing in the way the pic makes it look.



I'm sure you can see the shiny toenailed nail heads at the bottom of the studs. Is there a simple way to remove the nail heads, or do I need some sort of punch to drive them in at least flush with the wood?


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