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jabuck@hotmail.com 09-25-2007 12:50 PM

garage shelving above garage door
 
I am looking to build some shelves to attach to the ceiling above my garage door for storage of seasonal items. I am looking for some help on determining the best way of attaching the shelves through the ceiling to the rafters/studs above to support a load of say 125 lbs each. Since it's going over the garage door area I can't use supports from the floor to the bottom of the shelves for this concept to work. there are 2x4's used to support the ceiling that I was going to attach the shelves to. I was considering making a frame out of 2x4's wide enough to slide a standard piece of 3/8" plywood through (I thought 3/4" would be overkill and adding unnecessary weight). I am considering attaching a header to the wall of the garage for support of the shelves to help disperse the loading of weight. Can someone provide insight as to the size of header I should use or any other recommendations to make this work?

NateHanson 09-25-2007 01:31 PM

The "header" you're talking about is going to be attached to studs every 16" right? So a 2x3 would be plenty for that end.

Are the ceiling joists exposed, so that you could nail a vertical 2x4 to the side of them?

jabuck@hotmail.com 09-25-2007 02:00 PM

Thanks for the reply. I intended on attaching the "header" to each stud as you mentioned for the enitire length of the wall. There is already a drywall ceiling in the garage so I can't attach a vertical 2x4 directly down from the joist. I was going to go through the width of the 2x4 attached to the ceiling as a part of each frame, through the drywall and into the ceiling joists above with an appropriate size screw (a hex head, 5"x 1/4" diameter for instance in the center of each joist). I didn't think that lagging all the way through the 2x4 joist would be necessary - what do you think? Two of the shelves I will also lag into the side wall of the garage to support a couple of more heavy items. Do you think this concept will work? All we want to put on the shelves is boxes with seasonal home decorations, some camping equipment, etc. Nothing too heavy.

NateHanson 09-25-2007 02:05 PM

For the front, you're planning to lag-screw a 2x4 flat against the ceiling, right? I'd drill that 2x4 every 6', and countersink a nut and washer into the top of it, with 1/2" threaded rod hanging down from each of these holes. Then you can drill a 2x4 on edge to accept those rods, and put another nut and washer on the underside of the 2x4.

Capiche?

jabuck@hotmail.com 09-25-2007 02:18 PM

I could do that... I don't understand initially how you would use that vertical piece to provide the additional support needed - could you please explain that portion? Thanks for the insight!!

NateHanson 09-25-2007 02:37 PM

I'm talking about lagging a horizontal 2x4 against the ceiling, with threaded rod hanging down vertically from that, holding up another horizontal 2x4 that will support the front end of your shelf.

I'm not sure what "vertical piece" you're asking about.

jabuck@hotmail.com 09-25-2007 02:58 PM

Now I see what you're saying. sorry about the confusion. By doing that it would be much harder to split the connection point to the ceiling which would be good - not a bad idea. Thanks for the help. I might post some more messages as I get started.

KUIPORNG 09-25-2007 03:34 PM

I in fact did mine using 2x4 and a bunch of L shape metal thing for all the connection... it can be build as strong as you want by adding the 2x4 support beam from ceiling using the L shape... learn that from one of the web site.... as garage door has two side, (double garage), the other side I built first try to be cheap using smaller laminated wood 2x2... it is now being used to hold up light item only... should have been using 2x 4 all along...

jabuck@hotmail.com 09-25-2007 08:42 PM

The L-shaped brackets you used were screwed into the 2x4's on the ends to make the frame of the loft shelves? You also suggested that you attached the L-shaped brackets to the ceiling - how did you make the connections into the ceiling and also into the frame (what size lag bolts, screws or whatever)?

Thanks for the feedback!!

KUIPORNG 09-26-2007 09:29 AM

I use screw... but I did it for both side of a support beam... front and back to make it stronger... I used some left over outdoor deck screws for my job... but you can use any screws which is long enough and thick enough... the main thing I find out is that you cannot cover the whole bottom as this make you have no access to inside as the area is huge... but if you only insert long items that would be fine as this can be done from one end... I find the place is best to store left over construction material like woods. woods and woods... I only put 2x4 at the bottom as well... I didn't put OSB board to cover them up...


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